[Arlo previously] When "man" appeared, did everything that could respond to DQ just suddenly stop?
[Platt] Unless you can demonstrate otherwise, yes. [Arlo] I think the answer is that nothing "stopped" doing anything, but man gained the ability to engage socially and so gained a new repertoire of behavior. All biological patterns before man (and including man) responded to experience the same way the did after man appeared on this historical stage. [Platt] All value patterns at all levels are static They cannot respond to DQ. [Arlo] Value patterns are the aggregate responses to DQ. The are stable patterns of preference in the face of the Dynamic Quality. [Platt] The rest of what you seem to think are responses to DQ are simply the result of static patterns of behavior, entirely predictable, like jumping off a hot stove.. [Arlo] Reread the section from LILA. He is talking about Dynamic Quality (emphasis added). "When the person who sits on the stove first discovers his low-Quality situation, the front edge of his experience is DYNAMIC. He does not think, "This stove is hot," and then make a rational decision to get off. A "dim perception of he knows not what" gets him off Dynamically. Later he generates static patterns of thought to explain the situation." (LILA) All experience is in the moment of DQ. "Static" patterns are the aggregate preferences of these responses. Again, do you think a dog would have any different an experience on that stove? No. Of course, as Pirsig pointed out in ZMM, "man" generates wonderful analogues after the fact, something a dog cannot do. But the immediate moment of DQ is the same for both. DQ gets the man off the stove. DQ gets the dog off the stove. The difference is not what can and what can not respond to DQ, the difference is in the range of possible responses the pattern in question has at its disposal. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
