Chiming in with Arlo again, All patterns respond to DQ. All patterns are what they are because they got where they are by responding to DQ in the past.
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 7:00 PM, ARLO J BENSINGER JR <[email protected]> wrote: > [Arlo previously] > When "man" appeared, did everything that could respond to DQ just suddenly > stop? > > [Platt] > Unless you can demonstrate otherwise, yes. > > [Arlo] > I think the answer is that nothing "stopped" doing anything, but man gained > the > ability to engage socially and so gained a new repertoire of behavior. All > biological patterns before man (and including man) responded to experience > the > same way the did after man appeared on this historical stage. > > [Platt] > All value patterns at all levels are static They cannot respond to DQ. > > [Arlo] > Value patterns are the aggregate responses to DQ. The are stable patterns > of > preference in the face of the Dynamic Quality. > > [Platt] > The rest of what you seem to think are responses to DQ are simply the > result > of static patterns of behavior, entirely predictable, like jumping off a > hot > stove.. > > [Arlo] > Reread the section from LILA. He is talking about Dynamic Quality (emphasis > added). > > "When the person who sits on the stove first discovers his low-Quality > situation, the front edge of his experience is DYNAMIC. He does not think, > "This stove is hot," and then make a rational decision to get off. A "dim > perception of he knows not what" gets him off Dynamically. Later he > generates > static patterns of thought to explain the situation." (LILA) > > All experience is in the moment of DQ. "Static" patterns are the aggregate > preferences of these responses. > > Again, do you think a dog would have any different an experience on that > stove? > No. Of course, as Pirsig pointed out in ZMM, "man" generates wonderful > analogues after the fact, something a dog cannot do. But the immediate > moment > of DQ is the same for both. > > DQ gets the man off the stove. DQ gets the dog off the stove. > > The difference is not what can and what can not respond to DQ, the > difference > is in the range of possible responses the pattern in question has at its > disposal. > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
