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"Our concern is with the"consciousness" central to the quantum enigma---the awareness that appears to affect physical reality. We do not necessarily imply that consciousness is a "physical thing" that "reaches out" and does something physical. (((((()))))))) We are describing an enigma, not proposing a solution."(((((((())))))))))),?,? Okay, okay, I'll stop.. 2010/9/27 MarshaV <[email protected]> > > same page.... > > > "Our concern is with the"consciousness" central to the quantum > enigma---the awareness that appears to affect physical reality. We do not > necessarily imply that consciousness is a "physical thing" that "reaches > out" and does something physical. We are describing an enigma, not > proposing a solution." > > > Okay, okay, I'll stop... > > > > > > > On Sep 27, 2010, at 8:49 AM, MarshaV wrote: > > > > > > > "We have talked about consciousness but have never fully defined it. > Dictionary definitions of "consciousness" are little better than those for > "physics." We've been using "consciousness" as roughly equivalent to > "awareness." or perhaps the _feeling_ of awareness. It certainly includes > the perception of free will. Our use of the term "consciousness" is that > standard in the treatment of the quantum measurement problem. (In any > event, as Humpty Dumpty told Alice: "When I use a word . . . it means just > what I choose it to mean," and the philosopher Wittgenstein would more or > less agree.) > > > > "It is often pointed out that we can know of the existence of > consciousness in _no_ other way than through our first-person feeling of > awareness or the second-person reports of others. (In the following chapter > we suggest a quantum challenge to this limitation.) > > > > "We will not refer to many of the things found in discussions of > consciousness from a psychological point of view. For example, we will not > talk of optical illusions, mental disturbances, self-consciousness, or > Freud's seat of hidden emotions, the _unconscious." > > > > > > > >>>>>> (Rosenblum & Kuttner,'Quantum Enigma: Physics Encounters > Consciousness', p.172,2006) > > > > > > > > ___ > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > -- parser Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
