I like Linda, always did, know about the vaqueros, cantad amigos, i hope to learn spanish in the near future for the purpose of visiting Machu Pichu, and the main Latin America, one of the Canto's of Neruda in "General" is about Machu Pichu. But it is not easy, i am also learning Turkisch now , my wife is Turkisch, Probably within 5 years we will leave this country here planning to live in Turkey, but to travel mainly, see my spelling deviate already? Turkey's spelling is phonetically. drooling , drewling, futbol, voetbal,...etc
The squirrel model is not an analogy model nor literarry model, its a mathematikal model.sssttt! 2010/9/28 John Carl <[email protected]> > I was reading "Voice of the Coyote" by J Frank Dobie, Adrie, and he talked > about hanging out with some vacqueros on a moonlit nite, and hearing the > ululations of the coyotes and the cowboys join in, and than laugh and cry > out "cantad amigos", and it is this wild song, heard in the wavering cries > of the mariachi, that is the true voice and longing of the native american > song, as voiced by her beings in harmony. > > Linda ronstadt's eyes burn a hole in my soul, and her ethereal voice heals > all wounds and sails above the round of earthly woe. Singing the songs of > her father: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bQD8QrYnG8 > > John > > > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:11 AM, ADRIE KINTZIGER <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > Stttt, i'm reading the work "CANTO GENERAL" Pablo Neruda, ..."".America, > i > > do not invoke your name in vain""" > > > > and in the silence of my new veranda, the musical version, Mikis > > Theodorakis's masterpiece, CANTO GENERAL live > > on music, with Maria Farantouri and Petros Pandis as leading vocals,!!!! > > superb,...(illegal bootleg version) unique! > > > > > > La United Fruit co! > > greetz. > > > > 2010/9/28 MarshaV <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. It's an interesting book. - m > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 27, 2010, at 10:15 PM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote: > > > > > > > Oh , But i don't disaprove,But be carefull with it , its a bit of a > > > > minefield, keep your eye's open > > > > Keep an open mind. > > > > I don't decide anything,the path of growth is your's to walk, Eagle's > > fly > > > > solo. > > > > > > > > 2010/9/27 MarshaV <[email protected]> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> Adrie, > > > >> > > > >> There are ten will-considered interpretations of quantum physics > > > presented. > > > >> Are you going to tell me that David Bohm had it solved: > end-of-story? > > > >> Maybe you think that all biological and psychological processes will > > > reduce > > > >> to the laws of physics: no need to read further concerning > > > consciousness? > > > >> Or maybe you have decided that this book is not on the approved list > > of > > > MoQ > > > >> suggested reading? What's up Adrie? - To me the book seems like a > > > very > > > >> legitimate introduction and survey of present quantum enigmas. I > > cannot > > > >> understand why you disapprove. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Marsha > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Sep 27, 2010, at 12:21 PM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> same page.... > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> "Our concern is with the"consciousness" central to the quantum > > > >>> enigma---the awareness that appears to affect physical reality. We > > do > > > >> not > > > >>> necessarily imply that consciousness is a "physical thing" that > > > "reaches > > > >>> out" and does something physical. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> (((((()))))))) We are describing an enigma, not proposing a > > > >>> solution."(((((((())))))))))),?,? > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Okay, okay, I'll stop.. > > > >>> > > > >>> 2010/9/27 MarshaV <[email protected]> > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> same page.... > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> "Our concern is with the"consciousness" central to the quantum > > > >>>> enigma---the awareness that appears to affect physical reality. > We > > do > > > >> not > > > >>>> necessarily imply that consciousness is a "physical thing" that > > > "reaches > > > >>>> out" and does something physical. We are describing an enigma, > not > > > >>>> proposing a solution." > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Okay, okay, I'll stop... > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Sep 27, 2010, at 8:49 AM, MarshaV wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> "We have talked about consciousness but have never fully defined > > it. > > > >>>> Dictionary definitions of "consciousness" are little better than > > those > > > >> for > > > >>>> "physics." We've been using "consciousness" as roughly equivalent > > to > > > >>>> "awareness." or perhaps the _feeling_ of awareness. It certainly > > > >> includes > > > >>>> the perception of free will. Our use of the term "consciousness" > is > > > >> that > > > >>>> standard in the treatment of the quantum measurement problem. (In > > any > > > >>>> event, as Humpty Dumpty told Alice: "When I use a word . . . it > > means > > > >> just > > > >>>> what I choose it to mean," and the philosopher Wittgenstein would > > more > > > >> or > > > >>>> less agree.) > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> "It is often pointed out that we can know of the existence of > > > >>>> consciousness in _no_ other way than through our first-person > > feeling > > > of > > > >>>> awareness or the second-person reports of others. (In the > following > > > >> chapter > > > >>>> we suggest a quantum challenge to this limitation.) > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> "We will not refer to many of the things found in discussions of > > > >>>> consciousness from a psychological point of view. For example, we > > > will > > > >> not > > > >>>> talk of optical illusions, mental disturbances, > self-consciousness, > > or > > > >>>> Freud's seat of hidden emotions, the _unconscious." > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> (Rosenblum & Kuttner,'Quantum Enigma: Physics Encounters > > > >>>> Consciousness', p.172,2006) > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> ___ > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> ___ > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > >>>> Archives: > > > >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> -- > > > >>> parser > > > >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > >>> Archives: > > > >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ___ > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > >> Archives: > > > >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > parser > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > > Archives: > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > Archives: > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > parser > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > -- parser Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
