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2010/9/28 ADRIE KINTZIGER <[email protected]> > Stttt, i'm reading the work "CANTO GENERAL" Pablo Neruda, ..."".America, i > do not invoke your name in vain""" > > and in the silence of my new veranda, the musical version, Mikis > Theodorakis's masterpiece, CANTO GENERAL live > on music, with Maria Farantouri and Petros Pandis as leading vocals,!!!! > superb,...(illegal bootleg version) unique! > > > La United Fruit co! > greetz. > > 2010/9/28 MarshaV <[email protected]> > > >> >> Thanks. It's an interesting book. - m >> >> >> >> On Sep 27, 2010, at 10:15 PM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote: >> >> > Oh , But i don't disaprove,But be carefull with it , its a bit of a >> > minefield, keep your eye's open >> > Keep an open mind. >> > I don't decide anything,the path of growth is your's to walk, Eagle's >> fly >> > solo. >> > >> > 2010/9/27 MarshaV <[email protected]> >> > >> >> >> >> Adrie, >> >> >> >> There are ten will-considered interpretations of quantum physics >> presented. >> >> Are you going to tell me that David Bohm had it solved: end-of-story? >> >> Maybe you think that all biological and psychological processes will >> reduce >> >> to the laws of physics: no need to read further concerning >> consciousness? >> >> Or maybe you have decided that this book is not on the approved list of >> MoQ >> >> suggested reading? What's up Adrie? - To me the book seems like a >> very >> >> legitimate introduction and survey of present quantum enigmas. I >> cannot >> >> understand why you disapprove. >> >> >> >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 27, 2010, at 12:21 PM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote: >> >> >> >>> same page.... >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> "Our concern is with the"consciousness" central to the quantum >> >>> enigma---the awareness that appears to affect physical reality. We do >> >> not >> >>> necessarily imply that consciousness is a "physical thing" that >> "reaches >> >>> out" and does something physical. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> (((((()))))))) We are describing an enigma, not proposing a >> >>> solution."(((((((())))))))))),?,? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Okay, okay, I'll stop.. >> >>> >> >>> 2010/9/27 MarshaV <[email protected]> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> same page.... >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> "Our concern is with the"consciousness" central to the quantum >> >>>> enigma---the awareness that appears to affect physical reality. We >> do >> >> not >> >>>> necessarily imply that consciousness is a "physical thing" that >> "reaches >> >>>> out" and does something physical. We are describing an enigma, not >> >>>> proposing a solution." >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Okay, okay, I'll stop... >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Sep 27, 2010, at 8:49 AM, MarshaV wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> "We have talked about consciousness but have never fully defined it. >> >>>> Dictionary definitions of "consciousness" are little better than >> those >> >> for >> >>>> "physics." We've been using "consciousness" as roughly equivalent to >> >>>> "awareness." or perhaps the _feeling_ of awareness. It certainly >> >> includes >> >>>> the perception of free will. Our use of the term "consciousness" is >> >> that >> >>>> standard in the treatment of the quantum measurement problem. (In >> any >> >>>> event, as Humpty Dumpty told Alice: "When I use a word . . . it >> means >> >> just >> >>>> what I choose it to mean," and the philosopher Wittgenstein would >> more >> >> or >> >>>> less agree.) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> "It is often pointed out that we can know of the existence of >> >>>> consciousness in _no_ other way than through our first-person feeling >> of >> >>>> awareness or the second-person reports of others. (In the following >> >> chapter >> >>>> we suggest a quantum challenge to this limitation.) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> "We will not refer to many of the things found in discussions of >> >>>> consciousness from a psychological point of view. For example, we >> will >> >> not >> >>>> talk of optical illusions, mental disturbances, self-consciousness, >> or >> >>>> Freud's seat of hidden emotions, the _unconscious." >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> (Rosenblum & Kuttner,'Quantum Enigma: Physics Encounters >> >>>> Consciousness', p.172,2006) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ___ >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ___ >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> >>>> Archives: >> >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> parser >> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> >>> Archives: >> >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> >> Archives: >> >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > parser >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list >> > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> > Archives: >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> > http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> > > > > -- > parser > -- parser Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
