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On Sep 27, 2010, at 12:21 PM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote: > same page.... > > > "Our concern is with the"consciousness" central to the quantum > enigma---the awareness that appears to affect physical reality. We do not > necessarily imply that consciousness is a "physical thing" that "reaches > out" and does something physical. > > > (((((()))))))) We are describing an enigma, not proposing a > solution."(((((((())))))))))),?,? > > > Okay, okay, I'll stop.. > > 2010/9/27 MarshaV <[email protected]> > >> >> same page.... >> >> >> "Our concern is with the"consciousness" central to the quantum >> enigma---the awareness that appears to affect physical reality. We do not >> necessarily imply that consciousness is a "physical thing" that "reaches >> out" and does something physical. We are describing an enigma, not >> proposing a solution." >> >> >> Okay, okay, I'll stop... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 27, 2010, at 8:49 AM, MarshaV wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> "We have talked about consciousness but have never fully defined it. >> Dictionary definitions of "consciousness" are little better than those for >> "physics." We've been using "consciousness" as roughly equivalent to >> "awareness." or perhaps the _feeling_ of awareness. It certainly includes >> the perception of free will. Our use of the term "consciousness" is that >> standard in the treatment of the quantum measurement problem. (In any >> event, as Humpty Dumpty told Alice: "When I use a word . . . it means just >> what I choose it to mean," and the philosopher Wittgenstein would more or >> less agree.) >>> >>> "It is often pointed out that we can know of the existence of >> consciousness in _no_ other way than through our first-person feeling of >> awareness or the second-person reports of others. (In the following chapter >> we suggest a quantum challenge to this limitation.) >>> >>> "We will not refer to many of the things found in discussions of >> consciousness from a psychological point of view. For example, we will not >> talk of optical illusions, mental disturbances, self-consciousness, or >> Freud's seat of hidden emotions, the _unconscious." >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> (Rosenblum & Kuttner,'Quantum Enigma: Physics Encounters >> Consciousness', p.172,2006) >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> > > > > -- > parser > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
