Hi Dave, It is ALL very interesting, but in the end, they are intellectual static patterns of value. They may represent the best struggling against the best, but still they are intellectual static patterns of value and have limitations, changeability, incompleteness and impermanence.
The book defines the 'hard' and 'easy' problems, but I look forward to reading your's and Adrie's articles. Thank you. Marsha On Sep 28, 2010, at 8:46 AM, David Thomas wrote: > On 9/28/10 3:45 AM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Everybody in the world may know this but moi, but I find it terribly >> exciting: >> >> >> "To argue that conscious experience goes beyond ordinary knowing, we are >> told the story of Mary, a scientist of the future who knows all there is to >> know abut the perception of color. But she has never been outside a room >> where everything is black or white. One day she is shown something red. For >> the first time, Mary _experiences_ red. Her experience of red is something >> _beyond_ her complete knowledge of red. Or is it? You can no doubt generate >> for yourself the pro and con arguments that the Mary story provokes." > > Here's a con from a link page by Chalmers who is on the pro side. > > http://http-server.carleton.ca/~abrook/papers/2005-ConscNsc-1CogBrain.pdf >> >>>>>>> (Rosenblum & Kuttner,'Quantum Enigma: Physics Encounters Consciousness', >>>>>>> p.180,2006) > >> Somehow this represents the difference between 'probabilities' and >> 'possibilities,' but don't ask me to explain. >> > > And this is Chalmers link page with a wealth of papers on consciousness. > > http://consc.net/mindpapers/1.2g > > Dave > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
