Hi Dave, I read the paper by Andrew Brook, and well Dave, as you can imagine, the paper is way over my head. I would need to read it once or twice more just to keep the vocabulary straight. But it did seem the the field of 'neuroscience' is a mess. I am still glad I stayed with it for two reasons: 1.) It referenced the Mary story about the color red, though it didn't add or subtract much from the puzzlement, and 2.) I got to giggling to think what Krimel could do with the title 'mysterians'.
If you had a point to make other than to show me how much I do not know, please explain it. If you do not have such a point, then I concede, I don't know much, and I certainly don't know it all. Marsha On Sep 28, 2010, at 8:46 AM, David Thomas wrote: > On 9/28/10 3:45 AM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Everybody in the world may know this but moi, but I find it terribly >> exciting: >> >> >> "To argue that conscious experience goes beyond ordinary knowing, we are >> told the story of Mary, a scientist of the future who knows all there is to >> know abut the perception of color. But she has never been outside a room >> where everything is black or white. One day she is shown something red. For >> the first time, Mary _experiences_ red. Her experience of red is something >> _beyond_ her complete knowledge of red. Or is it? You can no doubt generate >> for yourself the pro and con arguments that the Mary story provokes." > > Here's a con from a link page by Chalmers who is on the pro side. > > http://http-server.carleton.ca/~abrook/papers/2005-ConscNsc-1CogBrain.pdf >> >>>>>>> (Rosenblum & Kuttner,'Quantum Enigma: Physics Encounters Consciousness', >>>>>>> p.180,2006) > >> Somehow this represents the difference between 'probabilities' and >> 'possibilities,' but don't ask me to explain. >> > > And this is Chalmers link page with a wealth of papers on consciousness. > > http://consc.net/mindpapers/1.2g > > Dave > ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
