DMB said ...

"there cannot be moral responsibility IF we are not free [to choose
how we decide to act, etc.]"

That's a basic logical starting point - agreed.
Free-Will 101.

Surely, any debate on here is well beyond that ?
Into debates about the "complex ecology of patterns"
of relations between
"we" "our morals" and "our freedoms".

In those patterns and relations we need to step beyond Logic 101.

Ian
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