Marsha, Are you speaking in theory? Your posts definitely suggest that you truly believe it exists. For example every time you use the pronoun "I". It is fine to deal in theories if they can be substantiated. It is better to post on our realities if they exist.
I could say that nothing exists in theory and that we should drop that word from our vocabulary since it only misdirects. So, if the self does not exist, there is no need to describe it other than "non-existent". Is this where you are at with your metaphysics? If so, then I must caution you that you are in a cul-de-sac, on a very long and rewarding road. Accept your existence as analogy and move on. All in MHO. If the self does not exist, then what does it? Ball in your court, love-love. Mark On Sep 15, 2011, at 9:57 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mark, > > The self neither exists, nor doesn't exist, nor both exists & doesn't exist, > nor neither exists and doesn't exist. > > > Marsha > > > > > On Sep 16, 2011, at 12:44 AM, 118 wrote: > >> OK, so you do believe in the existence of Self, my mistake. >> >> Mark >> >> On Sep 15, 2011, at 9:20 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:45 PM, 118 wrote: >>> >>>> Sure one can deny the existence of Self like Marsha does, >>>> but that is nonsense. >>> >>> >>> Mark, >>> >>> I deny the existence of an independent, autonomous self. The >>> "self" is a flow of ever-changing, conditionally co-dependent >>> and impermanent, static patterns of inorganic, biological, social >>> and intellectual value in the infinite field of Dynamic Quality. >>> >>> >>> Marsha >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
