Marsha said to Mark: 

I am quite comfortable with conventional (static) truth being relative.  It is 
a word comfortably used within Buddhism and I see no reason to reject.


Pirsig gives us lots of reasons to believe that truth is more than merely 
relative, Quality is track that guides the formation of both facts and moral 
truths:

What guarantees the objectivity of the world in which we live is that this 
world is common to us with other thinking beings. Through the communications 
that we have with other men we receive from them ready-made harmonious 
reasonings. ..And as these reasonings appear to fit the world of our 
sensations, we think we may infer that these reasonable beings have seen the 
same thing as we; thus it is that we know we haven't been dreaming. It is this 
harmony, this quality if you will, that is the sole basis for the only reality 
we can ever know.

Poincaré's contemporaries .. presumed that "preselected facts" meant that truth 
is "whatever you like" and called his ideas conventionalism.  ..What he 
neglected to say was that the selection of facts before you "observe" them is 
"whatever you like" only in a dualistic, subject-object metaphysical system! 
When Quality enters the picture as a third metaphysical entity, the 
preselection of facts is no longer arbitrary. The preselection of facts is not 
based on subjective, capricious "whatever you like" but on Quality, which is 
reality itself. ..To leave the impression in the scientific world that the 
source of all scientific reality is merely a subjective, capricious harmony is 
to solve problems of epistemology while leaving an unfinished edge at the 
border of metaphysics that makes the epistemology unacceptable. ..But we know 
from Phædrus' metaphysics that the harmony Poincaré talked about is not 
subjective. It is the source of subjects and objects and exists in an anterior 
relationship to them. It is not capricious, it is the force that opposes 
capriciousness; the ordering principle of all scientific and mathematical 
thought which destroys capriciousness, and without which no scientific thought 
can proceed.

>From chapter 29 of ZAMM:
Man is not the source of all things, as the subjective idealists would say. Nor 
is he the passive observer of all things, as the objective idealists and 
materialists would say. The Quality which creates the world emerges as a 
relationship between man and his experience. He is a participant in the 
creation of all things. The measure of all things...

How are you going to teach virtue if you teach the relativity of all ethical 
ideas? Virtue, if it implies anything at all, implies an ethical absolute. A 
person whose idea of what is proper varies from day to day can be admired for 
his broadmindedness, but not for his virtue.

Lightning hits!Quality! Virtue! Dharma! That is what the Sophists were 
teaching! Not ethical relativism. Not pristine "virtue." But areté. Excellence. 
Dharma! Before the Church of Reason. Before substance. Before form. Before mind 
and matter. Before dialectic itself. Quality had been absolute. Those first 
teachers of the Western world were teaching Quality, and the medium they had 
chosen was that of rhetoric.


...we advanced organisms respond to our environment with an invention of many 
marvelous analogues. We invent earth and heavens, trees, stones and oceans, 
gods, music, arts, language, philosophy, engineering, civilization and science. 
We call these analogues reality. And they are reality. We mesmerize our 
children in the name of truth into knowing that they are reality. We throw 
anyone who does not accept these analogues into an insane asylum. But that 
which causes us to invent the analogues is Quality. Quality is the continuing 
stimulus which our environment puts upon us to create the world in which we 
live. All of it. Every last bit of it.

Men invent responses to Quality, and among these responses is an understanding 
of what they themselves are. You know something and then the Quality stimulus 
hits and then you try to define the Quality stimulus, but to define it all 
you've got to work with is what you know. So your definition is made up of what 
you know. It's an analogue to what you already know. It has to be. It can't be 
anything else. And the mythos grows this way. By analogies to what is known 
before. The mythos is a building of analogues upon analogues upon analogues. 
These fill the collective consciousness of all communicating mankind. Every 
last bit of it. The Quality is the track that directs the train.



                                          
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