Good Day Khoo, David Thomas and all 11 mar 2013 kl. 15.22 khoohockaun wrote:
> Jan Anders, > > This conversation with you is a waste of time, devoid of quality. > > Goodbye. > Sent by DiGi from my BlackBerry® Smartphone & 11 mar 2013 kl. 16.28 David Thomas wrote: > On 3/11/13 9:07 AM, "Jan Anders Andersson" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> Free to intersperse the tedium of his day with a little bit of fun >> >> If he was working for me I could fire him for fooling around with the machine >> equipment. > D: > That's why he is not and should not be working for people, like you, who's > understanding of business and workers is limited to theories. > > If you watch the video closely the forklift is parked at the start and when > the demonstration is over he exits stage left probably returning to work. So > he was probably on break, using his own time to practice and improve his > skills. So what did it cost his company? Two minutes worth of fuel. Why does > Caterpillar regularly run heavy equipment rodeos around the world? And why > do companies, at some cost, regularly send their best operators to them? > Because without an operator the equipment is a quickly depreciating boat > anchor. And the difference between a highly skilled operator and an average > one may be the difference between business success and failure. The bean > counter setting in an air-conditioned office graphing, containers per shift, > per machine hour, per operator, completely misses this point. > > This is a "speed" formula. High quality operators optimize speed, precision, > and safety. Large equipment, in the hands of low quality operators, can be > highly destructive to their environment, customer products, and themselves. > These factors can and do drive costs,too. Then there is the social factor of > high quality operators driving lower quality operators to be better. > > Dave > I like this "speed" formula there Dave, but I dn't think it work that way. It seems hard for both of you to accept that there are grades of dynamic quality and that classifying something to be of low dynamic quality could be a correct statement according to the MOQ. Especially when some of my writing was of INTENTIONALLY LOW dynamic quality, just to show it in action. I had a plan, an overhead structure. I must apologize if someone took it personally. But isn't that nice to realise that a message can be sent not just by the actual words in it but also by the way the words are chosen, arranged and presented? Now, in this extremely short novel, I will explain to you why I called the frontlifters show as an act of low and not of high dynamic quality. 1 We cannot define DQ because all we get will be of static nature. What we get at least is tracks from DQ. These tracks are called SQ. 2 There are another discussion going on (Horse, Is this proper conduct?) about the level of some contributor's social appearance. We can just imagine WHY they're chosing that kind of language to each other. I strongly support Dmb, Arlo and Ron's view here if you want to know what I think about that. 3 Then we have the Dukkha part; "Kill all intellectual patterns" and follow Dynamic Quality to know something about intellectual Moral(s). Nothing new in that? Oh, we have Parcifal, "der reine Tor" (the complete idiot) that was the only one that should be able to find the Holy Grail. 4 Immanuel Kant said something like this: You cannot know anything about the table here but what your senses tell you about it. We can only know our own perceptions and nothing about the table per se, (Das Ding an sich. The table itself). I say: Put another table or something else upon the first table and you will be able to tell something about the relation between the objects. We are able to study the thing on the table by changing the relation between them, change place or turn them clockwise or upside down. (Das Ding an Tisch. The thing on the table). 5 A human has two ears, which serves the brain with two aspects of the surrounding sound and this makes it possible to make a stereo concept and localize your cellphone. 6 The scientific oriented human is equipped by two eyes. These eyes are transforming the view into two different aspects of the surrounding. By comparing these two pictures, the human is capable of making up a three-dimensional concept of the world outside the body from the actual picture concepts and their mutual difference. So please don't insist to be one-eyed. 7 The human brain is built in two halves that, according to recent research, serves in two different modes to complete the figure of the outside world. Wether it is a true concept or not is still a question. The important issue here is that it is possible to think about what you think regardless how many halves your brain have. You can be conscious about that you are conscious without being a scizo. It is like having a conceptual mirror in your mind where you can watch yourself performing. The difference between what you see and what you would like to see is sometimes obvious. For some of us this is an eternal experience of terror, other people have learned to not take themselves too seriously. It is so important to have a distance, to be able to whatch the difference and to be able to laugh at it. People without self-distance tend to be very very boring. If you have self-distance, you don't have to kill your self, you'd better laugh at your poor appearance and start doing something about it. I guess we could put in Kirkegaard here. 8 According to MOQ, Quality is an event and Experience is Value. To experience Value there must be difference or all experience would be similar and meaningless. Difference implies that there are more than one single quality event of value experience. 9 Events are changes. The difference in events have order and time. Value is difference between Qualities. DQ's as well as SQ's. DQ divided by SQ and SQ minus SQ as well as SQ/DQ and DQ-DQ. (Hi Joe. Emotions are our immediate response, SQ, to DQ.) 10 We know from Lila that SQ patterns can be described at 4 levels, the inorganic, the organic, the social and the intellectual level. The organic patterns are dependant of the inorganic but the inorganic are not dependant on the organic in the same manner. Our planet had a pretty good time long before the bacterias and the mold. Therefore the inorganic level is seen as a lower, more basic level of the evolution. The conditions for inorganics are mainly known by physics, chemistry and thermodynamics. And so on. There are no way to examine social patterns by inorganic or organic means and the most important scientific research about intellectual standards are well performed here in this forum by us. 11 On each and every level there are a lot of different events that ends up in static patterns, reiterated processes, eternal loops or whatever we may call it. The word pattern is timeless while process and loop implies an aspect of time and order to the pattern that would help classification because it is well known that some processes last longer than other. The lower number in the periodic table for example indicates a more stable materia in time. 12 At the biologic level processes are often called life and lifeforms, species etc. Biological processes are vulnerable to time. Reproduction is the standard strategy to overcome this depletion by age. As long as a certain species can reproduce it will continue to exist as a pattern at the biological level. 13 Social structures are different than biological structures. Social structures evolve by individual members that are different. Individual difference is characteristic and one of the most important differences is of sexual nature that is used for the reproduction. Sexual urges comes mostly from the biological system and this often causes tensions between social and biological values. A high quality social pattern give breed to many new members and they will be strong in fights about food and Lebensraum. They might be good intellectuals also. 14 Intellectual patterns build on language and social cultures, biological functions and electrochemical structures in the brain. Intellectual patterns are not dependant on special individuals even if they mostly emerge from a certain person. Anyone can repeat a word, learn E=MC2 or whatever. Intellectual patterns, economic systems or football strategies can be performed by anyone. There are ideas that work and there are ideas that doesn't work. Good ideas will be remembered and bad ideas will pop up once and again. 15 Goodness and badness appear at every level but, as the levels are structured above and under each other regarding their mutual dependency, we can talk about patterns of high and low dynamic quality. If the function of a pattern is mainly oriented towards the inorganic level we can call it low. A pattern that are oriented close to a lower level can also by that be classified as low because its tendency to support the lower level patterns. An epidemic disease for example, that kills all the members of a species and transform their energy into dead materia. A pattern that supports a higher level is of high dynamic quality. For example a social or business culture that is able to leave a lot of space and time for Metaphysical training is of high dynamic quality. 16 Business and Enterprising has been evolving fast during the last centuries. Businesses doesn't reproduce themselve, they make profit and try to last as long as possible. They are structures maintained by social and intellectual quality patterns. Good business structures yield while bad patterned enterprises fall. Responsible people at good businesses plan the working professions minutely and have a large impact on educational institutions. The best workers will be employed. Bad working patterns are eliminated. To get a picture of what is good business patterns of high quality and bad business practice is easy. Just look at the succesful companies and see how they work and how they plan their factory. Look at what kind of people are employed there and what do they do. If playing around with the machinery on work time would be of high dynamic quality we would see that in succesful companies like Apple, Amazon.com or Mercedes Benz. Please don't follow the other. I say that if people on a company use their equipment to play around, that company will soon degrade and diminish. That is the difference between acts of high and low dynamic quality, between high and low morals. That is why I think RMP added the subtitle "An inquiry into morals" to Lila. This is why I put the "Racing" chapter into my book "Money and the Art of Losing Control". Read it and weep... If this will be useful for someone it might be of high dynamic quality, or what say you? Do you turn biologic? Oh, well! (blush) Start the machine! Jan Anders Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
