J-A,

What potter?  -  It's your thought experiment and I don't understand it's 
point, so you'd be the person who must answer the questions. 


Marsha


On May 10, 2013, at 3:30 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Marsha
> 
> OK, you say that the clay changes from soft and malleable to firm and stable 
> AND still in a constant state of changeing.
> 
> So why do you think the potter is burning the clay? Is it because it makes 
> the clay firm and stable or doesn't it really matter because it is still in a 
> state of change?
> 
> Jan-Anders
> 
> 
> 10 maj 2013 x kl. 09.12 skrev MarshaV:
> 
>> 
>> J-A,
>> 
>> I did not write "still in constant change".  
>> 
>> Before (when soft and malleable), during firing, and after a firing (when 
>> firm and stable), the clay is still in a constant state of changing.  
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 9, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Would please answer my last question: 
>>> 
>>> Do you mean by that "still in constant change" that there is NO change when 
>>> the clay is burned? Y/N
>>> 
>>> J A
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 9 maj 2013 x kl. 09.21 skrev MarshaV:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> J-A,
>>>> 
>>>> If you do not familiar the process of firing clay, you might think about 
>>>> choosing a different example for your attempts at a thought experiment.  
>>>> Does your imagining clay firing stay the same?  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 8, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> YES
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am confused.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you mean by that "still in constant change" that there is NO change 
>>>>> when the clay is burned?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jan Anders
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 8 maj 2013 x kl. 11.34 skrev MarshaV:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> J-A,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You seem confused, so I've changed the subject line to reflect the 
>>>>>> original and more appropriate discussion.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marsha 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jan-Anders,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The original topic has not been replaced; it was change, not clay or 
>>>>>> teapots or 'saving time'.   Before (when soft and malleable) and after a 
>>>>>> firing (when firm and stable), the clay is still in a constant state of 
>>>>>> changing.  In other words, both before and after the firing, the clay or 
>>>>>> teapot  is ever-changing.  So once again I suggest that you might take a 
>>>>>> few minutes everyday to take an introspective look:  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "The purpose of mystic meditation is not to remove oneself from 
>>>>>> experience but to bring one's self closer to it by eliminating stale, 
>>>>>> confusing, static, intellectual attachments of the past."
>>>>>> (LILA, Chapter 9) 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> “Introspective observation is what we have to rely on first and foremost 
>>>>>> and always. I regard the belief [in introspection] as the most 
>>>>>> fundamental of all the postulates of Psychology” 
>>>>>> (W. James, 1890)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marsha 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
 
... snip... 
 
 
 

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