J-A, Any time you are ready to make the point of your thought experiment clear I will consider it.
Marsha On May 10, 2013, at 5:50 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <janander...@telia.com> wrote: > Well Marsha > > You admit that the clay changes from soft and malleable to firm and stable > AND still in a constant state of changeing. > > Do you understand that there is a change? The physical pattern changes into > another, OK? > > J-A > > 10 maj 2013 kl. 10.32 skrev MarshaV: > >> >> >> J-A, >> >> What potter? - It's your thought experiment and I don't understand it's >> point, so you'd be the person who must answer the questions. >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> On May 10, 2013, at 3:30 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <janander...@telia.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Marsha >>> >>> OK, you say that the clay changes from soft and malleable to firm and >>> stable AND still in a constant state of changeing. >>> >>> So why do you think the potter is burning the clay? Is it because it makes >>> the clay firm and stable or doesn't it really matter because it is still in >>> a state of change? >>> >>> Jan-Anders >>> >>> >>> 10 maj 2013 x kl. 09.12 skrev MarshaV: >>> >>>> >>>> J-A, >>>> >>>> I did not write "still in constant change". >>>> >>>> Before (when soft and malleable), during firing, and after a firing (when >>>> firm and stable), the clay is still in a constant state of changing. >>>> >>>> >>>> Marsha >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 9, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Jan Anders Andersson <janander...@telia.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Would please answer my last question: >>>>> >>>>> Do you mean by that "still in constant change" that there is NO change >>>>> when the clay is burned? Y/N >>>>> >>>>> J A >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 9 maj 2013 x kl. 09.21 skrev MarshaV: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> J-A, >>>>>> >>>>>> If you do not familiar the process of firing clay, you might think about >>>>>> choosing a different example for your attempts at a thought experiment. >>>>>> Does your imagining clay firing stay the same? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Marsha >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 8, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <janander...@telia.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> YES >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am confused. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you mean by that "still in constant change" that there is NO change >>>>>>> when the clay is burned? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jan Anders >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 8 maj 2013 x kl. 11.34 skrev MarshaV: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> J-A, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You seem confused, so I've changed the subject line to reflect the >>>>>>>> original and more appropriate discussion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Marsha >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jan-Anders, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The original topic has not been replaced; it was change, not clay or >>>>>>>> teapots or 'saving time'. Before (when soft and malleable) and after >>>>>>>> a firing (when firm and stable), the clay is still in a constant state >>>>>>>> of changing. In other words, both before and after the firing, the >>>>>>>> clay or teapot is ever-changing. So once again I suggest that you >>>>>>>> might take a few minutes everyday to take an introspective look: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "The purpose of mystic meditation is not to remove oneself from >>>>>>>> experience but to bring one's self closer to it by eliminating stale, >>>>>>>> confusing, static, intellectual attachments of the past." >>>>>>>> (LILA, Chapter 9) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> “Introspective observation is what we have to rely on first and >>>>>>>> foremost and always. I regard the belief [in introspection] as the >>>>>>>> most fundamental of all the postulates of Psychology” >>>>>>>> (W. James, 1890) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Marsha >> >> ... snip... >> >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
