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J A 13 maj 2013 x kl. 09.14 skrev MarshaV: > > Greetings J-A, > > On May 13, 2013, at 1:56 AM, Jan Anders Andersson wrote: > >> Dear Marsha >> >> I think you are interested to know its point. > > Is it your habit (pattern) to think you KNOW other people's interests? > That's a rather grandiose claim. - Make your point! > > > Here's my mundane point: > > > > --- Static patterns of value are repetitive processes (multiple events), > > conditionally co-dependent, > > impermanent, > > and ever-changing, > > that pragmatically tend to persist and change within a stable, predictable > pattern. > > Within the MoQ, > > these patterns are morally categorized into a four-level, > evolutionary, > > hierarchical > structure: > intellectual, > social, > > biological, > > and inorganic. > > Static quality exists in stable patterns relative to other patterns. > > Patterns have no independent, > inherent existence. --- > > > > > Marsha > > > p.s. Consider this explanation in the same category as "pure experience" > where 'pure' doesn't mean 'pure' but merely 'relatively pure' and there are > no accusations of some horrendous, unspeakable, anti-intellectual crime > against definition. > > > > >> 12 maj 2013 x kl. 23.46 skrev MarshaV: >> >>> >>> J-A, >>> >>> Answer the Y/N questions yourself; I am not interested in doing so. It's >>> your thought experiment, so explain its point. What are you thinking? >>> >>> >>> Marsha >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 12, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Marsha >>>> >>>> It shouldn't hurt or be dangerous in any way to just answer my questions >>>> with YES or NO. >>>> >>>> Is the clay burned to make it firm? Y/N >>>> >>>> Does that make it better and more useful? Y/N >>>> >>>> J-A >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jan-Anders, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The original topic has not been replaced; it was change, not clay >>>>>>>>>>>> or teapots or 'saving time'. Before (when soft and malleable) >>>>>>>>>>>> and after a firing (when firm and stable), the clay is still in a >>>>>>>>>>>> constant state of changing. In other words, both before and after >>>>>>>>>>>> the firing, the clay or teapot is ever-changing. So once again I >>>>>>>>>>>> suggest that you might take a few minutes everyday to take an >>>>>>>>>>>> introspective look: >>>> >>>>> Marsha: >>>>> I have pointed out many times, it is not anti-intellectual or a >>>>> contradiction to understand that patterns may maintain a static, stable >>>>> identity at the same time as they and their context are undergoing >>>>> constant change. Think of the Ship of Theseus, or a parade (Hume) where >>>>> everyone drops out but is replaced so that the parade is maintained, or >>>>> the body with its cells constantly being replaced. Things can change - >>>>> flow - and yet have permanence; think of a river. >>>> >>>> >>>> 11 maj 2013 x kl. 00.43 skrev MarshaV: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> J-A, >>>>> >>>>> Any time you are ready to make the point of your thought experiment clear >>>>> I will consider it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Marsha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 10, 2013, at 5:50 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well Marsha >>>>>> >>>>>> You admit that the clay changes from soft and malleable to firm and >>>>>> stable AND still in a constant state of changeing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you understand that there is a change? The physical pattern changes >>>>>> into another, OK? >>>>>> >>>>>> J-A >>>>>> >>>>>> 10 maj 2013 kl. 10.32 skrev MarshaV: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> J-A, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What potter? - It's your thought experiment and I don't understand >>>>>>> it's point, so you'd be the person who must answer the questions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Marsha >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 10, 2013, at 3:30 AM, Jan Anders Andersson >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Marsha >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OK, you say that the clay changes from soft and malleable to firm and >>>>>>>> stable AND still in a constant state of changeing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So why do you think the potter is burning the clay? Is it because it >>>>>>>> makes the clay firm and stable or doesn't it really matter because it >>>>>>>> is still in a state of change? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jan-Anders >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 10 maj 2013 x kl. 09.12 skrev MarshaV: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> snip... >>>>>>>>> > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
