J-A, What she?
Marsha On May 13, 2013, at 4:50 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> wrote: > So did you like the pattern she created? > > J A > > > 13 maj 2013 x kl. 10.28 skrev MarshaV: > >> >> J-A, >> >> Would you now like to lecture me on how you have achieved a similar >> performance of beauty, harmony, balance, and how I could too if only I >> listen to your wise words? >> >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 13, 2013, at 3:43 AM, Jan Anders Andersson wrote: >> >> How about this >> >> http://www.flixxy.com/the-incredible-power-of-concentration-miyoko-shida.htm#.UZCXf3DEjcU >> >> J A >> >> >> >> >> Greetings J-A, >> >> On May 13, 2013, at 1:56 AM, Jan Anders Andersson wrote: >> >>> Dear Marsha >>> >>> I think you are interested to know its point. >> >> Is it your habit (pattern) to think you KNOW other people's interests? >> That's a rather grandiose claim. - Make your point! >> >> >> Here's my mundane point: >> >> >> >> --- Static patterns of value are repetitive processes (multiple events), >> >> conditionally co-dependent, >> >> impermanent, >> >> and ever-changing, >> >> that pragmatically tend to persist and change within a stable, predictable >> pattern. >> >> Within the MoQ, >> >> these patterns are morally categorized into a four-level, >> evolutionary, >> >> hierarchical >> structure: >> intellectual, >> social, >> >> biological, >> >> and inorganic. >> >> Static quality exists in stable patterns relative to other patterns. >> >> Patterns have no independent, >> inherent existence. --- >> >> >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> p.s. Consider this explanation in the same category as "pure experience" >> where 'pure' doesn't mean 'pure' but merely 'relatively pure' and there are >> no accusations of some horrendous, unspeakable, anti-intellectual crime >> against definition. >> >> >> >> >>> 12 maj 2013 x kl. 23.46 skrev MarshaV: >>> >>>> >>>> J-A, >>>> >>>> Answer the Y/N questions yourself; I am not interested in doing so. It's >>>> your thought experiment, so explain its point. What are you thinking? >>>> >>>> >>>> Marsha >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 12, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Marsha >>>>> >>>>> It shouldn't hurt or be dangerous in any way to just answer my questions >>>>> with YES or NO. >>>>> >>>>> Is the clay burned to make it firm? Y/N >>>>> >>>>> Does that make it better and more useful? Y/N >>>>> >>>>> J-A >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan-Anders, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The original topic has not been replaced; it was change, not clay >>>>>>>>>>>>> or teapots or 'saving time'. Before (when soft and malleable) >>>>>>>>>>>>> and after a firing (when firm and stable), the clay is still in a >>>>>>>>>>>>> constant state of changing. In other words, both before and >>>>>>>>>>>>> after the firing, the clay or teapot is ever-changing. So once >>>>>>>>>>>>> again I suggest that you might take a few minutes everyday to >>>>>>>>>>>>> take an introspective look: >>>>> >>>>>> Marsha: >>>>>> I have pointed out many times, it is not anti-intellectual or a >>>>>> contradiction to understand that patterns may maintain a static, stable >>>>>> identity at the same time as they and their context are undergoing >>>>>> constant change. Think of the Ship of Theseus, or a parade (Hume) where >>>>>> everyone drops out but is replaced so that the parade is maintained, or >>>>>> the body with its cells constantly being replaced. Things can change - >>>>>> flow - and yet have permanence; think of a river. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 11 maj 2013 x kl. 00.43 skrev MarshaV: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> J-A, >>>>>> >>>>>> Any time you are ready to make the point of your thought experiment >>>>>> clear I will consider it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Marsha >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 10, 2013, at 5:50 AM, Jan Anders Andersson >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Well Marsha >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You admit that the clay changes from soft and malleable to firm and >>>>>>> stable AND still in a constant state of changeing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you understand that there is a change? The physical pattern changes >>>>>>> into another, OK? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> J-A >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 10 maj 2013 kl. 10.32 skrev MarshaV: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> J-A, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What potter? - It's your thought experiment and I don't understand >>>>>>>> it's point, so you'd be the person who must answer the questions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Marsha >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On May 10, 2013, at 3:30 AM, Jan Anders Andersson >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Marsha >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> OK, you say that the clay changes from soft and malleable to firm and >>>>>>>>> stable AND still in a constant state of changeing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So why do you think the potter is burning the clay? Is it because it >>>>>>>>> makes the clay firm and stable or doesn't it really matter because it >>>>>>>>> is still in a state of change? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jan-Anders >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 10 maj 2013 x kl. 09.12 skrev MarshaV: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> snip... >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
