Well Marsha You admit that the clay changes from soft and malleable to firm and stable AND still in a constant state of changeing.
Do you understand that there is a change? The physical pattern changes into another, OK? J-A 10 maj 2013 kl. 10.32 skrev MarshaV: > > > J-A, > > What potter? - It's your thought experiment and I don't understand it's > point, so you'd be the person who must answer the questions. > > > Marsha > > > On May 10, 2013, at 3:30 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Marsha >> >> OK, you say that the clay changes from soft and malleable to firm and stable >> AND still in a constant state of changeing. >> >> So why do you think the potter is burning the clay? Is it because it makes >> the clay firm and stable or doesn't it really matter because it is still in >> a state of change? >> >> Jan-Anders >> >> >> 10 maj 2013 x kl. 09.12 skrev MarshaV: >> >>> >>> J-A, >>> >>> I did not write "still in constant change". >>> >>> Before (when soft and malleable), during firing, and after a firing (when >>> firm and stable), the clay is still in a constant state of changing. >>> >>> >>> Marsha >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 9, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Would please answer my last question: >>>> >>>> Do you mean by that "still in constant change" that there is NO change >>>> when the clay is burned? Y/N >>>> >>>> J A >>>> >>>> >>>> 9 maj 2013 x kl. 09.21 skrev MarshaV: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> J-A, >>>>> >>>>> If you do not familiar the process of firing clay, you might think about >>>>> choosing a different example for your attempts at a thought experiment. >>>>> Does your imagining clay firing stay the same? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Marsha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 8, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> YES >>>>>> >>>>>> I am confused. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you mean by that "still in constant change" that there is NO change >>>>>> when the clay is burned? >>>>>> >>>>>> Jan Anders >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 8 maj 2013 x kl. 11.34 skrev MarshaV: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> J-A, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You seem confused, so I've changed the subject line to reflect the >>>>>>> original and more appropriate discussion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Marsha >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jan-Anders, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The original topic has not been replaced; it was change, not clay or >>>>>>> teapots or 'saving time'. Before (when soft and malleable) and after >>>>>>> a firing (when firm and stable), the clay is still in a constant state >>>>>>> of changing. In other words, both before and after the firing, the >>>>>>> clay or teapot is ever-changing. So once again I suggest that you >>>>>>> might take a few minutes everyday to take an introspective look: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "The purpose of mystic meditation is not to remove oneself from >>>>>>> experience but to bring one's self closer to it by eliminating stale, >>>>>>> confusing, static, intellectual attachments of the past." >>>>>>> (LILA, Chapter 9) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> “Introspective observation is what we have to rely on first and >>>>>>> foremost and always. I regard the belief [in introspection] as the most >>>>>>> fundamental of all the postulates of Psychology” >>>>>>> (W. James, 1890) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Marsha >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > > ... snip... > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
