David M to Andre:
So until there is culture and language there is no experience?

Andre:
No, that's not what I'm saying. There is experience first after which we try and find ways of describing this value. It is after the experience we generate notions of 'banana taste', green or red colours, happy or sad emotions and the like.

There are, I'm sure, many things going on in my own body (organic stuff) that I have no knowledge of. I do not need to think of breathing for it to take place. The organic patterns themselves have learned that to the extent that it's considered 'automatic'. It has an 'intelligence' of its own.

There are many things going on at all levels about which I have no knowledge but my point is that this is NOT due to any inherent 'property' of Dynamic Quality, that's all I'm trying to say David.
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