>let the flow of DQ >take you and you decay back to DQ itself. There's an interesting parallel found in a koan where the monk says that fear of death is wrong because death is like an ice-crystal melting back into the vast ocean that was its source.
Sometimes I think that comparing reality in its entirety to an analogue is not correct, because you're attributing part of reality to complete reality. -- Akshay On 5/31/07, Ron Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > [Akshay] > > Thanks for sharing your thoughts on that -- it gave me good insights > into what Pirsig really means. > > But if DQ means freedom or detachment certain static patterns (in the > context of growth), then when you actually grow better, you're still > attached to some static pattern, which means that you never really get > rid of patterns completely, but only shift between which patterns you > value. > > Perhaps the answer to that is the whole latching thing Pirsig talks > about. > But how come all dynamic processes, those processes getting rid of their > previous patterns, end up better than before? Perhaps, the definition of > DQ is itself growth (not considering all the "can't be defined" debate). > > By the way, don't you honestly think that Pirsig should write at least 5 > more books on his thoughts? > > -- > > > [Ron] > Akshay, I apologize for misspelling your name. I think one more book to > distill and solidify his > thoughts without a story line would be nice. > > DQ termed as growth and growth termed as change comes close to summing > it up but what about decay? might quality be expressed > In an "attack and decay" analogue like a sound wave ? Where it rises to > a static manifestation > Then decays back to DQ? Where all things behave this way but at varing > rates? Then DQ may be expressed > as differing levels of approaching/receeding static manifestation? > Pirsig and the other pragmatists never mention decay. To use an old > Taoist analogue, is the perception > Of realitylike the reflecting sunlight off a running river, appearing > constant yet ever moving? > many questions yet to be accounted for, for me anyway. I'm beginning to > get the impression > That life may be summed up in a spawning salmon analogue that which > fights up stream againt the roar > Of dynamic quality stay static long enough to spawn, let the flow of DQ > take you and you decay back to > DQ itself. Thoughts? Or am I getting alittle kooky. > > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
