Thanks for the links and information clearly much different from state to state and this is the only incident that I have ever had with any GS and I didn't dishonor it I only made a stipulation in order to use it at half off due to the expiration date.
Anna Creations by Anna Z-James www.annazjames.com -----Original Message----- From: Rhonda Kibuk <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Nov 15, 2010 5:06 am Subject: Re: NailTech:: Help! That's because my first link and the link that you posted, Deb, are from sites that are compiling the information. It is best to go to the horses mouth, so to say. I downloaded the brochure that I recommended that Anna download and this is what the law states: G IFT CARDS AND GIFT CERTIFICATES Gift cards and gift certificates are subject to the state of Nevada’s unclaimed property laws contained in NRS 598.0921 and NRS 120A.530. For gift cards/certificates issued prior to October 1, 2007, the following rules apply: If the card/certificate has not been used for at least three years, it is subject to escheatment at 100% of the remaining face value. These cards have a three year dormancy period. This includes all gift cards whether they expire or not. For gift cards/certificates issued on or after Oct 1, 2007, the following rules apply: The card/certificate is escheated in the time period in which it expires. There is no dormancy period. It is escheated at 60% of the remaining face value (businesses are allowed to keep 40%). If the card/certificate has no expiration date, it is not subject to escheatment and 100% of the remaining value must be honored indefinitely. The full brocure can be found here. https://nevadatreasurer.gov/Documents/Unclaimed/UP_HolderReportingManual.pdf and it gives a link within there to the actual WRITTEN law. Anna, I am sure you didn't know about this, however, you do now. All it takes is one attorney to receive a gift certificate and to be denied using that certificate and you will be audited in no time. As you can see, KEEPING ALL OF THE MONEY isn't an option. Period. It does not belong to you UNTIL you perform the service. R On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Debbie Doerrlamm <[email protected]> wrote: Anna, All this is dependant on your state laws, Nevada doesn't regulate GC's as much as other states as far as these escheat laws, (hehe and its not Mississippi divided by any means if you went to peek at the link Rhonda posted!) According to that link: Nevada: • No fees for the first 12 months • After 12 months, fees may not exceed $1 per month. • Covers Gift Cards usable at a single store or chain. Multiple use cards are not covered The other link Rhonda posted: https://nevadatreasurer.gov/Documents/Unclaimed/UnclaimedPropertyBrochure.pdf contradicts the first link really.. According to one link I found: Summary of Gift Certificate Laws Nevada Expiration – Expiration date or toll-free number to call to enquire about expiration must be printed on the certificate. Nevada Rev. Stat. § 598.0921(1)(a). Fees – Fees must be disclosed and may not exceed $1/month and may not be imposed within 12 months of issuance. Nevada Rev. Stat. § 598.0921(1)(b). Effective October 1, 2007, issuers are prohibited from charging a service fee for inactivity of less than three continuous years. (2007, Chapter 363) Gift Cards- Gift cards are covered under the definition of “gift certificate.” Nevada Rev. Stat. § 598.0921(3)(a) So maybe in NV, since you did print the exp data you can safely tell this woman to beat it :) But honestly thats not so in all 50 states! http://www.rimmkaufman.com/content/brannlawgiftcertchart.pdf At 12:25 AM 11/15/2010, you wrote: I clearly understand where you're all coming from in the stand point of allowing the client to use their $...Really I do However, this client in question has abused a large number of her services with me from coming in late, showing up on wrong days, no showing me, going no less then 4 weeks for a fill, making 2 hour appointments and as she shows up canceling her 2nd service. The expiration dates on 1 of the GC's was for 2 months out and the other was for 4 months later, so that she would use them in a timely manner or at least give it to someone that would use them. I did offer to give her half off towards a service to be fair not only to her but to myself as well. The GC's in question are now almost 6 months past the time they should have been used. With regard to $ unaccounted for in the states I have never in my life ever heard of such a thing, it must only be on the east coast or mid west cause I have never heard of that...I am independent contractor and work for MYSELF I make my own prices, my own rules and my own appointments...If I chose to not honor a Gift Certificate that has been expired for more then a 6 month period that is my digression It was her mistake for not using it in a timely manner not mine...I have had this client for over 7 years and know she has the time to get services and needs them too so she should of thought more of her money and my time! Most reputable business' don't honor a Gift Certificate/Card that are expired or have no money on then, so why should my business be any different just cause I work as a manicurist? I think NOT, I am just as reputable as Walmart or Target!! Anna Creations by Anna Z-James www.annazjames.com -----Original Message----- From: Angela R Wingerter <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, Nov 14, 2010 8:01 pm Subject: Re: NailTech:: Help! I also keep gc money in an envelope and pay myself when I do the service. That way the money is always there when I do the service. Expired or not. Anna, I understand why you wanted an expiration date to try to get clients to get into a routine with their pedi's. You could have the deal expire on a certain date but if they didn't use it by then they could still use the money. For example...They purchased a pedi and prepaid for the second one at half price to be used within X amount of time . If they did not do that then the money they paid for the half price pedi would become credit with you, but now the service is at full price. If your pedi's are $30, the two pedi special would cost $45. If they got the first pedi and then let the second expire then they should still have $15 credit. Not for a half price pedi but $15 toward a $30 pedi or whatever service they want. I personally would always let them use their money toward something. At least dollar to dollar. That is why I always put a money value on a gc. If someone gives them a gc for a pedi but they really don't want anyone touching their feet but would be interested in getting nails then I will let them use that money towards nails. I always put an expiration date because if my prices go up and they try to use the gc after it expires then I tell them I will honor the gc for the amount it was purchased for if they will pay the difference in price. They appriciate that I will honor an expired gc and they could turn into a good client. Hope that makes sense. This is just a suggestion and my opinion, I try to put myself in their place. I forget and let my own gc expire sometimes. Angie Wingerter From: Becky <[email protected] > To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, November 14, 2010 7:10:20 PM Subject: Re: NailTech:: Help! Agreed, and I almost posted that yesterday. The best idea I've had is to get an envelope, put the money in it, then pay yourself when it's redeemed. On Nov 14, 2010 7:08 PM, "Pati" <[email protected]> wrote: > In NY you have to honor a GC...no expiration dates allowed. Well... you can > PUT them on the Gc ( to encourage speedy use) but you have to honor them past > the expiration date...OR you can refuse to honor it but have to send the > money that the client spent to "unclaimed funds" in the governmental offices > somewhere.... like really... who does that? But I think that makes sense..IF > someone spends the money it shouldn't expire. > > > Pati > > 'Good friends are like stars... > You don't always see them, But you know they are always there. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anna Z-James <[email protected]> > To: nailtech < [email protected]> > Sent: Sun, Nov 14, 2010 7:39 am > Subject: Re: NailTech:: Help! > > > I am at an AWW with clients period they expect that you are their savior > their super woman and want S##t for FREE all the time or expect that you > shouldn't have a life or make time for yourself or your family, as if being a > manicurist was my hobby or something.... > > I recently ran a special that if you pre-purchased a pedicure your received > the a 2nd 1/2 off I had a client purchase the 2 certificates that had > expiration dates on them...(Mind you she is not my only client and I don't > have a memory of steal)...She came in got a pedicure and paid cash, 2 weeks > later she said "oh I forgot to use my certificate" I stated to her bring it > in and use it before it expires the next time because I didn't remember that > you purchased them...She called to tell me that it had already > expired....Well if you'd like I can honor it at half off...Now both of the > certificates are expired cause she brought them both in for me to look > at....I'm sorry the most I can do is 1 pedicure at half off, the special was > designed so that you would come in and maintenance your feet regularly, 1 for > each month I can not honor the special as they are already 2 months expired, > not to mention that if you had a gift card from Target or any other major > store and it was expired they wouldn't honor it either. > > Lynette - You did the best job you could have done to satisfy this client and > yet she still did not respect your profession enough to allow you to do your > job correctly nor did she respect the fact that you were using a professional > product on her...Tell that poorlittle woman that you can't warranty the > product that she purchasedfrom QVC cause it is not a professional product > that you carry nor doservices with...had it been a product that you carried > or used for yourservices that you would have warrantee it...Sorry...I'm also > really baffled by the fact that she said she couldn't afford the services > from you however she purchased a $30 item from QVC then turned around and > asked you to used it on her rather then she do it her self....WOW! > > > This is mybusiness not my hobby...I do not receive a paycheck from a > majorcorporation and I am the boss....I can not continue to keep giving upmy > time and services to others that have not made my time for services as a > priority or the respect of my business any more! I work veryhard, pay lots of > money for products and rent, marketing, website, cellphone and other items to > satisfy my clients needs. My job as a selfemployed manicurist is to service > and satisfy not only the clients butmy pockets as well. > > > Anna > Creations by Anna Z-James > www.annazjames.com > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhonda Kibuk <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, Nov 14, 2010 6:38 am > Subject: Re: NailTech:: Help! > > > Michelle, > > I am with Karen. NO REFUNDS. People are famous for this one. > > R > > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 1:04 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > The gel polish from QVC really works according to a client of mine. She > recently stopped doing acrylics. But that small bottle of treatment cost > $30!!!!!!!!!!! > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > From: Michelle Phoenix < [email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > > Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 19:16:10 -0500 > > To: [email protected] < [email protected]> > ReplyTo: [email protected] > Subject: Re: NailTech:: Help! > > > > > > Becky this is really good! > > Michelle Phoenix - Elite Nail Technician > Wet Paint Nail Spa > www.wetpaintnailspa.com > > > On Nov 13, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Becky <[email protected] > wrote: > > > > > "Good afternoon (client name), I just wanted to give you a call because I > have gotten to thinking. I don't feel that I am able to provide the level of > service that you require any longer. I like to believe that I know my limits > and I am unable to continue at the level you require. You are quite > particular and I respect that, so I am going to let you find a new salon in > which to have your nails done. Have a beautiful day, and it was nice to have > met you! " > On Nov 13, 2010 5:38 PM, "Lynnette Madden" <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hey everyone.... I am in a mood and not sure what I should do. >> I will be brief : >> Newer sog client. About four times. EVERY SINGLE FREAKING TIME she got them >> done I got a phone call a day or so later. >> * first time.. Lynnette, my ni chip got a chip. Called back later that >> day,hubby tells me it happened as she took out her dentures. She never >> fessed up to it. >> *as I was curing her at another appointment, she put her one finger on >> another while curing the top coat. I buffed that area, small mind you, to a >> high shine because I did not have time to redo it. >> She called the next day to say it was not shiny in the one spot. I told her >> what she did, but come back for me to redo. She did the SAME DAMN THING, but >> this time her finger stuck....cured...to each other. >> Third time she calls to say she has bubbles on one thumb. When she came, I >> swear you needed a MICROSCOPE to see two little things. >> Comes in this week and says she cannot afford to keep this up. Brings in >> some $#!t from QVC and wants my opinion on it. (some pink "gel"polish) >> I did two coats of gelish base and we polished. >> Yesterday she called to say the polish came off on a corner of one nail. >> I have not called her back. >> >> Buenos dias! >> Lynnette Diaz-Madden >> >> www.facebook.com/nailtech >> www.salon29.net >> >> Salon 29-where pampering and >> personal attention is on its way! >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "NailTech" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] . >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. 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