Also opening a credit card dispute that early seems pretty unreasonable to
me - how much time do you have to do that?

Surely waiting a month or more would be allowed by your card company, given
item is coming from overseas (not to mention being a bespoke item!)

David



On Sat, 11 Jan 2025, 20:08 jb-electronics, <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Sorry, I have to side with inixielab here. You (conveniently?) omitted the
> fact that you were in contact with the seller for a custom item, that was
> incidentally expertly produced. You did not mention that you had a direct
> line of communication with the seller. You did not mention whether you
> reached out after you didn't hear back. Yet, you writing publicly here on
> neonixie-l, where a lot of people can read these kind of insinuations,
> seemed like a good idea to you.
>
> And then you mention "But I am the bad guy who did something wrong." Hmm.
>
> Best regards
> Jens
>
> On 2025-01-10 4:00 a.m., Leroy Jones wrote:
>
> I started working with nixie tubes in 1990.  At that time there were still
> lots of National Electronics ones around.
> When in Phoenix, AZ on a business trip in 1998, I drove over to Antique
> Electronic supply and bought out their entire stock
> of National nixies.   Lots of NL-807 tubes in that bunch.   Then in
> 1999-2000 I started buying up B-7971 tubes so i could build
> the scrolling text array that uses 16 of them.   Have enough of those to
> make another group of 8 to eventually make a 24- tube scrolling array.
> Plenty of spares.   Those cost $10 each then.   So it is with just over 30
> years of nixification under my belt that I now write this.
> Things are getting rather weird I have to say, what with all of the
> up-and-coming "new" manufacturers and with strong doses of plenty of drama
> to go with it along the way.    But who am I to say it?    I just wanted
> to test one of the new tubes.   That is all I wanted to do I swear it.
>
>
> On Thursday, January 9, 2025 at 9:44:35 PM UTC-5 Richard Scales wrote:
>
>> I ordered a DGM01 and it arrived in a couple of weeks as far as I can
>> remember, the tube is lovely. I am now working on a custom tube project
>> with the same manufacturer and so far have not had any comms issue though I
>> would agree that their web site does not give the impression of being much
>> of an e-commerce oriented thing at the moment. I note that they are using
>> ShopPay for payments but I guess that does not provide any tracking updates
>> etc.  Perhaps it may at some future point.
>> I suspect that their skills and focus are mostly in the area of nixie
>> tube development for which I would give them much praise as that is where
>> the future is going to be for our hobby. I have tracked the general price
>> trend of nixies over just the last 8 years (as that is how long ago I
>> developed an interest) and it seems to continue to spiral skywards as
>> demand increases and supply, well, it's going to dry up some day!
>> I do hope that Inixielab (and anyone else doing the same) continue with
>> their development and make a commercial success of it (and get to the point
>> of having a real e-commerce site!).
>>  - Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, 10 January 2025 at 02:20:03 UTC Leroy Jones wrote:
>>
>>> High drama.   Caused by a failure to communicate.    Of course I get
>>> painted as the bad guy.   It always happens that way.
>>> I am used to it.   However, fortunately, this only happens in way less
>>> than 1% of my transactions.   To everyone reading this,
>>> think what you will.   I have done nothing wrong, given the nature of
>>> this situation.   It was caused by an unfortunate lack of proper
>>> communication.    Yes.  I agree.  The entire ordeal is OUTRAGEOUS.
>>> From start to finish.  Had I known it was going to turn out like this
>>> I would have not touched it with a ten foot pole!    Beautiful looking
>>> tubes.  Great looking web site.   But no customer login nor order status
>>> available.
>>> Paypal does not work.   Credit card only.   Last I heard and understood
>>> everything was ready.   Then an entire 7 days of complete silence ensued
>>> after the payment was made via credit card.    Somehow when the money
>>> showed up, then communication suddenly stopped.
>>> But I am the bad guy who did something wrong.    Gentlemen, is that not
>>> high drama right there?  I rest my case.     -Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 9, 2025 at 8:51:59 PM UTC-5 Sadudu wrote:
>>>
>>>>   I sincerely apologize for any inconvenience caused. Let me now walk
>>>> you through the process of what happened.
>>>>
>>>>   [image: 微信图片_20250110092903.png][image: 微信图片_20250110092910.png][image:
>>>> 微信图片_20250110092915.png][image: 微信图片_20250110092918.png]
>>>>
>>>> Here's a chat from a week ago, you mentioned that you needed a test
>>>> board and I promised to make one for free and send it to you after I
>>>> learned of your need. And I have told you that it will take some time to
>>>> produce the PCB, and you have replied that it is not urgent (THERE IS NO
>>>> HURRY AT ALL!!!!!!!!). After I draw the corresponding PCB, it will take me
>>>> three days to produce it, and it will take me three days to mail it to my
>>>> home. After I receive it, I have to do some simple soldering and testing.
>>>> If you receive it, you should see it as a PCB with soldered pins.
>>>>
>>>> I think it's very funny that I  made and sent you the PCB for free and
>>>> you said I didn't ship it. I actually shipped the item when you first asked
>>>> me.
>>>>
>>>> Now that I've refunded you the money, the mailed item is a gift to you.
>>>> This is just outrageous.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, January 10, 2025 at 3:39:44 AM UTC+8 Leroy Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> One thing that really bugs me about their site is there is no customer
>>>>> account login to check status of pending orders.
>>>>> That plus the fact that there is no communication about "order
>>>>> received" nor any info about tracking number.
>>>>> I waited an entire 7 day week after charging it to my credit card and
>>>>> not a peep.   I canceled the order and opened a credit card dispute.
>>>>> Not my first rodeo.   This is unacceptable.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, January 9, 2025 at 2:27:47 PM UTC-5 Nick Andrews wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I ordered a couple of their test boards with tube some time back and
>>>>>> if I recall, it took a couple ot 3 weeks to get shipped.  No biggie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 12:44 PM Leroy Jones <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does anyone on here have any personal experience dealing with
>>>>>>> inixielab.com?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone here have any experience with the new DGM01 tube?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I ask because I am getting very concerned over the fact that I
>>>>>>> ordered one tube
>>>>>>> to test an entire 7 day week ago, and have not heard back nor gotten
>>>>>>> a tracking number
>>>>>>> for the shipping.   Their web site has no customer account sign-in,
>>>>>>> nor does it have any
>>>>>>> way to check up on the status of pending orders.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Comments?   Anyone?
>>>>>>>
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