Thanks Kyle, understanding a wiring diagram may be beyond me but I'll try.
On Mar 16, 2009, at 1:00 AM, Kyle Munz wrote: > Here's the wiring diagram Dennis scanned for me a while back (see > attached). You're looking at the "changing indicator" and "Changing > switch". I'd start with the switch first myself. > > -Kyle > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Graham Rogers <[email protected]> > wrote: > I wondered if anyone would notice Dennis. It's an '86. When I > bought it, the tank had been replaced with an '85. I had the side > covers and tail piece painted and decided to go with 85 decals for > two reasons. The ones on the tank were good and I prefer the 85 > cosmetics over the '86. Now I'm ready to fix the N/gear indicator > light problem (always staying on N). Where do I start? Graham > > On Mar 15, 2009, at 9:01 PM, Dennis Hammerl wrote: > >> It's an interesting bike. What year is it supposed to be ? The >> cosmetics are '85, the wheels are '86. The motor might have been >> painted ? but they look like '86 too. '84 and '85 have polished >> rims and cylinder fins and head cover. '86 is all black. >> >> --- On Sun, 3/15/09, Graham Rogers <[email protected]> wrote: >> From: Graham Rogers <[email protected]> >> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk S starting problem >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 5:07 AM >> >> I don't know. There was red lettering on the ends, they were >> peeling so I took them off. Could they have been FZ, F something >> I think? >> >> On Mar 15, 2009, at 12:58 AM, Dennis Hammerl wrote: >> >>> Pretty motorcycle. Very handsome. What make slip-ons ? >>> >>> --- On Sat, 3/14/09, Graham Rogers <[email protected]> wrote: >>> From: Graham Rogers <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk S starting problem >>> To: [email protected] >>> Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 8:07 PM >>> >>> Here's the Nighthawk in question - I've solved the choke problem >>> (it was in the carbs dummy). Thanks to Dennis. Now I have a >>> sticking front caliper and the N light always on. At least now >>> it starts at the touch of the button, kiwi >>> >>> <#1> >>> On Feb 25, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Kyle Munz wrote: >>> >>>> I can remember fighting this same problem on my dirtbike as a >>>> kid. After finding the solution I bought a sticker for the bike >>>> that read "Turn the gas on dummy!". Not to say you're a dummy, >>>> but the problem does sound like a lack of fuel somewhere along >>>> the line. >>>> >>>> -Kyle >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Graham Rogers >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I cranked the motor over - it tried to start, at least on one >>>> or two cyl. Then I checked the plugs. They were dry on the tips >>>> and porcelain but a little wet on the rim of the plug. It >>>> didn't smell like gas however. I then tried to start the bike >>>> with my hand restricting the air flow at the air filter. It did >>>> start but died when I moved my 'hand choke' I probably could >>>> have gotten it started that way. So, it looks like the choke >>>> isn't working eh? Now what? >>>> Graham >>>> >>>> On Feb 25, 2009, at 12:21 AM, Dennis Hammerl wrote: >>>> >>>>> Spraying it optimizes the conditions needed for starting. >>>>> Which... means the chokes aren't working. If it has a strong >>>>> vacuum when cranking if you hold your hand over any carb >>>>> throat, the chokes aren't passing any fuel. WHY ? The "gas >>>>> chokes" are very simple valve devices. If they have access to >>>>> fuel from the float chamber and they are open to the bores when >>>>> activated, all should work. With the throttle plates closed, >>>>> the high vacuum (or , more properly, low pressure) should draw >>>>> fuel up through the choke circuits and into the motor. It's as >>>>> simple as a faucet. I don't want to get into any abstract at >>>>> this point. Are the plugs getting wet when you crank the motor >>>>> with the chioke operated ? Knowing that is a must before >>>>> proceding. If they are, we look elsewhere. If not, we stay in >>>>> the carbs. >>>>> >>>>> --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Graham Rogers <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> From: Graham Rogers <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk S starting problem >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 8:05 AM >>>>> >>>>> Tried starting the bike this morning and there doesn't seem to >>>>> be any improvement. It would 'bubble' along like it was trying >>>>> to catch (it acted like a weak spark) but again it took >>>>> starting fluid and the choke seemed not to play apart. Once it >>>>> had 'caught', restricting the air flow through the air filter >>>>> with my hand significantly increased the rpms. Maybe I should >>>>> also check the state of the battery huh? >>>>> Incidently I noticed the fuel gauge didn't work until I revved >>>>> the engine significantly and held the revs. That was a new one >>>>> to me, Graham >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 23, 2009, at 11:02 PM, Dennis Hammerl wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Let us know how that works out. The neutral wiring is grounded >>>>>> and that's why it always shows N / green light. Let's get into >>>>>> that later. You have multiple issues. One at a time. >>>>>> >>>>>> --- On Mon, 2/23/09, kiwi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> From: kiwi <[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk S starting problem >>>>>> To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 1:16 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> Blasted those tiny holes that allow the gas through when using >>>>>> the >>>>>> choke with compressed air and >>>>>> spent 2 hours reinstalling the carbs. It >>>>>> still took starting fluid to get the bike started BUT, not >>>>>> very much >>>>>> >>>>>> and the choke worked a little. I'll see how it >>>>>> starts >>>>>> tomorrow when >>>>>> it is back to winter temperature. >>>>>> >>>>>> Second problem with this NH is the neutral/gear indicator. It >>>>>> reads N >>>>>> all the time and won't show what gear the bike is in. I found >>>>>> a little >>>>>> >>>>>> black box under the tail section that I think is part of the >>>>>> N/gear >>>>>> >>>>>> indicator system. Is there a way to check it? >>>>>> Third problem should be simple. The left front turn signal is >>>>>> 'bright' when ignition is on but will not blink when it >>>>>> should. The >>>>>> >>>>>> others work as they should. That left one shines a lot >>>>>> brighter than >>>>>> >>>>>> the right front when ignition is on. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 22, 11:11 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > I will assume your carb clean was a complete operation. >>>>>> Let's examine >>>>>> >>>>>> how the choke works. The cable opens valves that will >>>>>> permit raw fuel to be >>>>>> sucked into the motor during cranking. Now, >>>>>> lets say that works fine.Your plugs >>>>>> should be wet after cranking for a short while. Y-N ? The most >>>>>> common >>>>>> cause of >>>>>> the plugs being dry after cranking is the throttle plates >>>>>> being open too far and >>>>>> >>>>>> causing insufficient vacuum. Same as opening the throttle >>>>>> while trying >>>>>> >>>>>> to start. >>>>>> When the intake air flow is too low, no fuel will be drawn in >>>>>> from the choke >>>>>> circuit. If the plugs are wet, you're flooding the motor. >>>>>> >>>>>> > We start here. Additional checks of compression and a leak- >>>>>> down may be in >>>>>> >>>>>> order. >>>>>> > This may take time to resolve. Get at it. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Graham Rogers <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > From: Graham Rogers <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Nighthawk S starting problem >>>>>> > To: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> > Date: Sunday, February 22, 2009, 6:18 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I have a 1986 Nighthawk S. It ran before I got it but >>>>>> always took >>>>>> > starter fluid in the air filter >>>>>> to get it going. I pulled the carbs >>>>>> > and >>>>>> >>>>>> thoroughly cleaned them and used to compressed air in all the >>>>>> >>>>>> > holes. However the bike still will not start without stater >>>>>> fluid >>>>>> > and even then it takes along time with the fluid. I noticed >>>>>> that >>>>>> >>>>>> > using the choke seemed to make no difference at all so, >>>>>> thinking that >>>>>> >>>>>> > perhaps the choke isn't working at all I removed the carbs >>>>>> again >>>>>> > (they are terrible to remove) and did what I could toi >>>>>> ensure the >>>>>> >>>>>> > choke was working right. The mechanism moves as it should >>>>>> and I used >>>>>> >>>>>> > compressed >>>>>> air in the holes to the where I >>>>>> presume the choke opens. >>>>>> > Now, before I reinstall the carbs, any suggestions? Could the >>>>>> > problem have been the choke or is there something else that >>>>>> would >>>>>> > cause the same problem. By the way, once the >>>>>> >>>>>> bike was warmed up, it >>>>>> >>>>>> > ran fine - just when it's cold I have to use >>>>>> starting fluid, Graham >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > <scan0001.jpg> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
