or A diode will pass current in only one direction. If it fails and passes in 
both, the bike indicator will always say N or conversly think it's in gear.. 
too late to think clearly. Check it for function. One way only. Not open both 
or closed both.  

--- On Mon, 3/16/09, Kyle K.K. <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Kyle K.K. <[email protected]>
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk S starting problem
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 2:07 AM

Thanks.  On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> 
wrote: > Let's see... I do believe the light is supposed to go on when it's in 
> neutral.. duh. > Now after that bit of sport, remember the interlock that 
prevents the bike > from starting unless the clutch lever is in if the 
interlock has been told > the bike is in gear ? There is a diode in the wiring 
harness under the gas > tank.. now does that start you thinking Bunky ? > > --- 
On Mon, 3/16/09, Kyle K.K. <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Kyle K.K. 
<[email protected]> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk S starting 
problem > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 
1:53 AM > > Interesting. What about a N indicator light that pops on when the 
clutch is >  pulled in OR when it's in Neutral?  On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:38 
AM, > Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > Disconnect the wiring from 
the > switch on the engine. Now
 what does it say ? > If it still says N, there is > a short to ground 
somewhere above the switch. > When the indivual circuits > are grounded, they 
indicate. The display should > be off without any wires > connected to the 
switch. I'm betting on a misplaced > wire. Some fools think > that black wires 
and green ones are all grounds. > uhun... black is > 12V(switched) , green is 
ground. Household wiring does not > apply. > I have > two '86 700's ... I like 
the RWB models. Bought it new. The other is > a BR > one. my first 700 was an 
'84 in BR. > > --- On Mon, 3/16/09, Graham Rogers > <[email protected]> wrote: > 
> From: Graham Rogers <[email protected]> > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 
Nighthawk S starting problem > To: >  [email protected] > Date: 
Monday, March 16, 2009, 12:51 AM >> > I wondered if anyone would notice Dennis. 
 It's an '86.  When I bought > it, > the tank had been replaced with an '85.  I 
had the side covers and >
 tail > piece painted and decided to go with 85 decals for two reasons.  The > 
ones on > the tank were good and I prefer the 85 cosmetics over the '86. Now > 
I'm ready > to fix the N/gear indicator light problem (always staying on N). >  
Where do I > start? Graham > On Mar 15, 2009, at 9:01 PM, Dennis Hammerl > 
wrote: > > It's an interesting bike. What year is it supposed to be ? The > 
cosmetics are > '85, the wheels are '86. The motor might have been painted ? > 
but they look > like '86 too. '84 and '85 have polished rims and cylinder > 
fins and head > cover. '86 is all black. > > --- On Sun, 3/15/09, Graham > 
Rogers <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Graham Rogers >  <[email protected]> 
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk S starting > problem > To: 
[email protected] > Date: Sunday, March 15, > 2009, 5:07 AM > > 
I don't know. There was red lettering on the ends, they > were peeling so I > 
took them off.  Could they have been
 FZ, F something I > think? > On Mar 15, 2009, at 12:58 AM, Dennis Hammerl 
wrote: > > Pretty > motorcycle. Very handsome. What make slip-ons ? > > --- On 
Sat, 3/14/09, > Graham Rogers <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Graham Rogers 
> <[email protected]> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk S starting > 
problem > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, March 14, > 
2009, 8:07 PM > > Here's the Nighthawk in question - I've solved the choke > 
problem (it was in > the carbs dummy).  Thanks to Dennis.  Now I have a > 
sticking front caliper > and the N light always on.  At least now it starts > 
at the >  touch of the > button, kiwi > <#1> > On Feb 25, 2009, at 5:49 PM, 
Kyle Munz > wrote: > > I can remember fighting this same problem on my dirtbike 
as a > kid. After > finding the solution I bought a sticker for the bike that 
read > "Turn the gas > on dummy!". Not to say you're a dummy, but the problem 
does > sound like a > lack of fuel
 somewhere along the line. > > -Kyle > > > On > Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 5:46 PM, 
Graham Rogers <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > I cranked  the motor over - it 
tried to start, at least on one or two cyl. >>> Then I checked the plugs.  They 
were dry on the tips and porcelain but a >>> little wet on the rim of the plug. 
 It didn't smell like gas however.  I >>> then tried to start the bike with my 
hand restricting the air flow at the >>> air filter.  It did start but died 
when I moved my 'hand choke' I > probably >> could have gotten it started that 
>  way.  So, it looks like the choke isn't >> working eh?  Now what? >> Graham 
>>> On Feb 25, 2009, at 12:21 AM, Dennis Hammerl wrote: >> >> Spraying it > 
optimizes the conditions needed for starting. Which... means >> the chokes > 
aren't working. If it has a strong vacuum when cranking if you >> hold your > 
hand over any carb throat, the chokes aren't passing any fuel. WHY >> ? The > 
"gas chokes" are very
 simple valve devices. If they have access to >> fuel > from the float chamber 
and they are open to the bores when activated, >> all > should work. With the 
throttle plates closed, the high vacuum (or , more >> > properly, low pressure) 
should draw fuel up through the choke circuits and >>> into the motor. It's as 
simple as a faucet. I don't want to get into any >>> abstract at this point. 
Are the plugs getting wet when you crank the > motor >> with the chioke 
operated ? Knowing that is a >  must before proceding. If they >> are, we look 
elsewhere. If not, we stay > in the carbs. >> >> --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Graham 
Rogers <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> From: Graham Rogers <[email protected]> 
>> Subject: [Nighthawk > Lovers] Re: Nighthawk S starting problem >> To: > 
[email protected] >> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 8:05 > 
AM >> >> Tried starting the bike this morning and there doesn't seem to be > 
any >> improvement.  It would
 'bubble' along like it was trying to catch (it > acted >> like a weak spark) 
but again it took starting fluid and the choke > seemed not >> to play apart.  
Once it had 'caught', restricting the air flow > through the >> air filter with 
my hand significantly increased the rpms. >  Maybe I should >> also check the 
state of the battery huh? >> Incidently I > noticed the fuel gauge didn't work 
until I revved the >  engine >> significantly and held the revs. That was a new 
one to me, >  Graham >> On Feb 23, 2009, at 11:02 PM, Dennis Hammerl wrote: >> 
>> Let us > know how that works out. The neutral wiring is grounded and that's 
>> why it > always shows N / green light. Let's get into that later. You have 
>> > multiple issues. One at a time. >> >> --- On Mon, 2/23/09, kiwi > 
<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> From: kiwi <[email protected]> >> Subject: > 
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk S starting problem >> To: "Nighthawk > 
Motorcycle Lovers!"
 <[email protected]> >> Date: Monday, > February 23, 2009, 1:16 
PM >> >> Blasted those tiny holes that allow the gas > through when using the 
>> choke with compressed air and >>  spent 2 hours > reinstalling the carbs. It 
>> still took starting fluid to get the bike > started BUT, not very much >> 
and the >  choke worked a little.  I'll see how it  starts >>  tomorrow when >> 
it is > back to winter temperature. >> >> Second problem with this NH >>  is 
the > neutral/gear indicator.  It reads N >> all the time and won't show what 
gear > the bike is in. I found a little >> black box under the tail section 
that I > think is part of the >>  N/gear >> >> indicator system.  Is there a 
way to > check it? >> Third problem should be simple.  The left front turn 
signal is >>> 'bright' when ignition is on but will not blink when  it should.  
The >> > others work as they should.  That left one shines a lot brighter than 
>> >> > the right front when
 ignition is on. >> >> On Feb 22, 11:11 pm, Dennis > Hammerl 
<[email protected]> wrote: >> > I will assume your carb clean was a > complete 
operation. Let's examine >> >> how the choke works. The cable opens > valves >  
that will >>  permit raw fuel to be >> sucked into the motor during > cranking. 
Now,  lets say that works fine.Your >> plugs >> should be wet > after cranking 
for a short while. Y-N ? The most >>  common >>  cause of >> > the plugs being 
dry after cranking is the throttle plates being open too >> > far and >> >> 
causing insufficient vacuum. Same as opening the throttle > while trying >>  to 
start. >> When the intake air flow is too low, no fuel > will be drawn in from 
the >> choke >> circuit. If the plugs are wet, you're > flooding the motor. >> 
>> > We start here. Additional checks of compression > and a leak-down may be 
>> > in >> order. >> > This may take time to resolve. > Get at it. >> > >> > 
--- On Sun, 2/22/09, Graham Rogers
 <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> > From: Graham Rogers <[email protected]> >  
>> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Nighthawk S starting problem >> > To: > 
[email protected] >> >> > Date: Sunday, February 22, 2009, > 
6:18 PM >> > >> > I have a 1986 Nighthawk S.  It ran before I got it but > 
always took >> > starter fluid in the air filter >>  to get it going.  I > 
pulled the carbs >> > and >> >>  thoroughly cleaned them and used to > 
compressed air in all the >> > holes.  However the bike still will not start > 
without stater fluid >> > and even then it takes along time with the fluid. >  
I noticed that >> >> > using the choke seemed to make no difference at all > 
so, thinking that >> > perhaps the choke isn't working at all I removed the > 
carbs again >> > (they are terrible to remove) and did what I could toi > 
ensure the >> >> > choke was working right.  The mechanism moves as it >  
should and I used >> > compressed  air in the holes
 to the where I >> > presume the choke opens. >> >> > Now, before I reinstall 
the carbs, any > suggestions?  Could the >> > problem have been the choke or is 
there > something else that would >> > cause the same problem.  By the way, 
once the >>>  bike was warmed up, it >> >> > ran fine - just when it's cold I 
have to > use >>  starting fluid,  Graham >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  

      
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