That is exactly what I was having a problem with. I could not get the carbs wedged into place because there was not enough space. Thanks for the advice.
On Jan 8, 2:52 pm, James O'Gorman <[email protected]> wrote: > Hmm... > > I hook up the throttle cables before sliding the carbs in from the left side > of the bike. Once down there, I finagle the choke cable into place. > > Then roll the bank of carbs up and down while pushing the forward into the > engine. Be sure the rings that tighten the carbs to the intake are loose. the > rubber boots that go on the other side of the carbs (from the airbox) go in > last. You can take the seat off and loosen the two bolts that hold the air > box in place and slide it back about 1/2" to help. It is these boots that are > a major PITA. I've gotten better at removing/replacing them, but it still > takes about 15 minutes for each of the two boots on my 83 650. > > Good luck! > > On Jan 8, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Dustin Mcclure wrote: > > > > > > > > > So, this is the first time that I have ever removed the carburetors on > > a motorcycle. I have everything cleaned and now I am trying to get > > them back on. It took me about an hour and a half to remove the > > carburetors but it is taking me forever to get them back on. Any tips? > > > On Jan 8, 7:26 am, Dustin Mcclure <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I removed the pilot screws and I was able to access 1 of the passages > >> that is directly under the pilot screw inside of the chamber but there > >> are also four other holes of the exact same diameter that I could not > >> reach(they are about an inch further inside of the carb chamber). I > >> was wondering how I could reach these to clean them out. > > >> PO? If you are talking about the guy who sold me the bike I trust > >> him....he is my brother in-law. I don't think he was giving me any bs. > >> It is just the very tip of the pilot screw that is broken off and I > >> can still screw it in all the way if I put enough pressure on it with > >> my thumb. > > >> On Jan 7, 4:29 pm, "Allen Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> The passages are accessed by removing the pilot screws so it sounds like > >>> you got them. However if the points of those screws are buggered up they > >>> won't regulate fuel properly, sound like the PO is full of BS on that one. > >>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Dustin Mcclure <[email protected]> > > >>> Sender: [email protected] > >>> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:55:53 > >>> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!<[email protected]> > >>> Reply-To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Just started cleaning my carbs > > >>> Luckily I watched a few videos on carb cleaning before I started. I > >>> see that one of the big mistakes people make doing this first time is > >>> marring the jets do to overtightening. I have a shop manual that tells > >>> me the proper torque for every screw in the carb I just need to pick > >>> up a torque wrench before I stick my carbs back on. > > >>> So far I have already cleaned all of the float chambers. I pulled out > >>> the main and slow jets and cleaned them with a guitar string of the > >>> appropriate width and cleaned the outside with a scotch pad. I made > >>> sure when I was shooting the carb cleaner through all of the > >>> passageways that I removed the diaphragms( I just didn't to remove > >>> these at first because I have heard that if they swell they may > >>> become unusable). I removed all 4 pilot screws and cleaned them and > >>> their passageways. I could not however find the passageway that leads > >>> to the idle circuit passages. Could you tell me where this is? > > >>> From what I have seen so far the carburetor is in pretty good shape. > >>> The inside looked pretty clean and the carb cleaner that I had shot > >>> through all of the passages with ease. The only problem that I saw was > >>> that one of the idle screws was broken off at the top but the guy who > >>> owned the bike before me said that two of the idle screws had been > >>> like that before and he replaced one(the bike ran fine then). > > >>> Thanks for your time. I plan on putting the carbs back on tonight to > >>> see what happens. Dustin. > > >>> On Jan 6, 10:33 pm, Allen Thomas <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> Don't get the carb cleaner on the rubber parts,it pulls the oils from the > >>>> rubber and makes them brittle, example: the diaphragms you didn't > >>>> remove.. > >>>> My experience was that the idle circuit passages are usually what gets > >>>> clogged, if you look at the engine side of the carburator barrels you > >>>> will > >>>> see some small holes (open the butterflies) these are the ones. Though if > >>>> you have the carbs off the bike anyway you should probably take the time > >>>> to > >>>> remove the float bowls and clean the main and slow jets too. The best > >>>> way to > >>>> clean these passages is to remove the pilot jet screws (turn in to > >>>> LIGHTLY SEATED first recording the # turns), and the choke plungers, then > >>>> alternate shooting carb cleaner with compressed air, until you are > >>>> satisfied > >>>> that air/fluid shoots out of all of them equally well. Make sure you wear > >>>> eye protection as the liquid can get you in the face real easy. If you > >>>> can't > >>>> get fluid to squirt out of these holes then you will need to soak the > >>>> carbs > >>>> which will require a full tear down, and that is a bit of work. also if > >>>> you > >>>> remove them from the bar you will have to completely re-sync them. I > >>>> have read that cooking them in a crock pot full of pinesol or lemon > >>>> juice on > >>>> low, does wonders and won't destroy the rubber/plastic parts, but I have > >>>> never tried it. > > >>>> Oh yea, empty the tank of the old crud gas, clean the petcock (look for > >>>> rust > >>>> particles as you may have to clean/seal you're tank), replace any inline > >>>> filters, get a can of seafoam and run that through you're first tank of > >>>> fresh fuel, and put in some seafoam/stabil if you are not going to run > >>>> the > >>>> bike for more than two weeks. > > >>>> Thats my recommendations anyway, Welcome to the group, and post some > >>>> pictures! > >>>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Dustin Mcclure > >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: > > >>>>> I just purchased a 1984 Nighthawk 700S from my brother in-law. I > >>>>> was aware when I started looking at the bike that it was not running > >>>>> so I had a friend of my parents, who just happens to be a Honda > >>>>> motorcycle mechanic, come and look at the bike. He told me it just > >>>>> sounded like the carbs need to be cleaned. So, last night I removed > >>>>> and disassembled the carbs(except for the diaphragms) and I just > >>>>> picked up some carb cleaner today along with a bottle of sea foam. > > >>>>> I am not really too much of a mechanic but I understand the > >>>>> general function of the carburetors. I was just wondering if anyone > >>>>> would be able to tell me of any specific passageways that get clogged > >>>>> easier than others on these carbs. Is there anything I should pay > >>>>> close attention to? The reason I am asking is because the carburetors > >>>>> are really not all that dirty. > > >>>>> A little more information on the bike. When my brother in-law > >>>>> bought it the bike ran perfectly(that was within the last year and a > >>>>> half). It seems like it just slowly went down hill until it wouldn't > >>>>> start. I have already disassembled the petcock on the bike and cleaned > >>>>> it too. The bike turns over fine it just won't fire up. Any > >>>>> information would be very helpful. > > >>>>> Thanks. > > >>>>> Dustin. > > >>>>> -- > >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>> Groups > >>>>> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>>> [email protected]<nighthawk_lovers%2Bunsubscrib > >>>>> [email protected]> > >>>>> . > >>>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> [email protected]. > >>> For more options, visit this group > >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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