thanks Ross,  I already thought of that

On Aug 27, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Ross M. Jamison wrote:

> Graham,
> Check to see that there are NO LED bulbs installed. Led & incandescent will 
> not work together. You can make them but you will need a resistor between the 
> led & power source.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Ross M. Jamison
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 27, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Graham Rogers <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> thanks Kurt,  I'll come back to it again later - I have to put my mind on 
>> something else for a while, it's too boggled,  Graham
>> 
>> On Aug 27, 2012, at 9:21 AM, Kurt Nolte wrote:
>> 
>>> Graham, to recap:
>>> 
>>> You have swapped the relay, and you know you have four working bulbs.
>>> 
>>> The relay supplies power to the signal switch. Internal contacts in the 
>>> switch disconnect the parking light (not supplied by the relay) and connect 
>>> the pathway to the proper signals side. The load of the bulbs draws a 
>>> certain amount of current through the relay, which heats up a metal strip. 
>>> This causes the strip to change shape, breaking the circuit. Current stops 
>>> flowing, the strip cools and makes the circuit to start the cycle all over 
>>> again.
>>> 
>>> If you have an issue with all four signals, the problem must lie somewhere 
>>> upstream of the switch, including the switch itself.
>>> 
>>> When the switch is OFF, you will read voltage at the switch from the relay; 
>>> the meter makes the connection and allows current to flow. If you have 
>>> voltage at the switch, try checking JUST continuity across switch contacts. 
>>> Unplug the wire from the relay; if it is functioning properly you'll just 
>>> get intermittent voltage, which isn't useful for checks.
>>> 
>>> Kurt
>>> On Aug 27, 2012 8:21 AM, "Graham Rogers" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Allen,  I spent a couple of hours at it yesterday afternoon - couldn't find 
>>> it.  I'll try again today and report back.  It seems that I have 12 v from 
>>> the gray wire at the relay to the turn signal bulb but when I activate the 
>>> turn signal it cancels the voltage in the gray wire (which may be it should 
>>> if the gray wire carries voltage to the running lights and the running 
>>> lights go out when activating the turn signal). However the green and white 
>>> is not hot to the bulb when I activate the turn signal. I tried jumping 
>>> wires from the relay to various places along the wire harness. Just give me 
>>> carbs to clean instead! Graham
>>> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2012, at 11:36 PM, Allen Thomas wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Graham, any luck on finding the bad wire?
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>>>> From: "Allen Thomas" <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:54:49 +0000
>>>> To: Nightwawk Lovers<[email protected]>
>>>> ReplyTo: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signal problems - AGAIN ALLEN!
>>>> 
>>>> That is what the givi cases are for.
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>>>> From: Kurt Nolte <[email protected]>
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>>>> Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:25:24 -0400
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> ReplyTo: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signal problems - AGAIN ALLEN!
>>>> 
>>>> You crazy lucky people and your blinker parties. I'm nine hours away. :/
>>>> 
>>>> Javier, where do you fit the cooler on the bike? Inquiring minds...
>>>> 
>>>> -Kurt
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