They would have to be in series to do any good. That way the electrons have no choice but to go through them. In parallel they have two choices, through the resistor, or through the load. Current always chooses the path of least resistance.
-Kyle On Aug 27, 2012 1:09 PM, "Hanghank" <[email protected]> wrote: > You really should let the manufacturer’s of those LED’s know about that > “in series” hookup. They are telling everyone (incorrectly?) that they > need to be across the bulb: > > LED LOAD RESISTOR & RECON 12-V RELAY KIT Part # 26420 - LED Light Bulb > Load Resistor Kit [image: RECON Part # 26420 - LED Bulb Load > Resistor 6 Ohm / 50 Watt For Signal or Brake light with Dual Filament LED > bulbs] [image: LED light bulb > resistors]<http://www.gorecon.com/product.php?pk=242#> RECON > Part # 26420 - LED Bulb Load Resistor 6 Ohm / 50 Watt For Signal or Brake > light with Dual Filament LED bulbs > > LED bulbs may cause some newer vehicles to indicate a bulb is burnt out > (because of their low power consumption). Some cars indicate this by > increasing the flash rate of the turn signals, some turn on a bad bulb > indicator. This can be remedied with our Load Resistors wired across the > turn signal bulbs to simulate a filament bulb load. > This 6 Ohm, 50 Watt resistors can be connected across the turn signal > bulbs to simulate the load of a regular filament bulb (2 Amp load). This > will solve LED related turn signal problems such as hyper flashing or burnt > out bulb indications. This LED Load Resistor can be use with most signal or > brake light which uses SINGLE or DUAL FILAMENT LED light bulbs, like the > 7443, 1157, 3157, 4157, 1156, 7440, 3156 etc > http://www.gorecon.com/product.php?pk=242 > > > *From:* Kurt Nolte <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, August 27, 2012 12:38 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signal problems - AGAIN ALLEN! > > > Resistors for LEDs must go in series with the diode, not across the leads. > If you bridge the leads you don't get much bump in resistance or current; > diodes have a fixed voltage drop, and elements in parallel MUST match > voltage drops. > > Kurt > On Aug 27, 2012 1:36 PM, "Hanghank" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Double check that. I know only a little about LED’s but they are low >> load, and I believe the resistor goes across the two leads to the LED to >> *increase* the load, or current consumption. Putting them in series >> with the power would reduce the voltage/current even more. Ironically, >> current operated relays require additional load to be added to the circuit, >> negating the benefit of the reduced current. No resistor needed except for >> current operated relays. Why not add a “solid state” relay and enjoy the >> energy savings? >> >> *From:* Ross M. Jamison <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Monday, August 27, 2012 12:13 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Cc:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signal problems - AGAIN ALLEN! >> >> Graham, >> Check to see that there are NO LED bulbs installed. Led & incandescent >> will not work together. You can make them but you will need a resistor >> between the led & power source. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Ross M. Jamison >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 27, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Graham Rogers <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> thanks Kurt, I'll come back to it again later - I have to put my mind >> on something else for a while, it's too boggled, Graham >> >> On Aug 27, 2012, at 9:21 AM, Kurt Nolte wrote: >> >> Graham, to recap: >> >> You have swapped the relay, and you know you have four working bulbs. >> >> The relay supplies power to the signal switch. Internal contacts in the >> switch disconnect the parking light (not supplied by the relay) and connect >> the pathway to the proper signals side. The load of the bulbs draws a >> certain amount of current through the relay, which heats up a metal strip. >> This causes the strip to change shape, breaking the circuit. Current stops >> flowing, the strip cools and makes the circuit to start the cycle all over >> again. >> >> If you have an issue with all four signals, the problem must lie >> somewhere upstream of the switch, including the switch itself. >> >> When the switch is OFF, you will read voltage at the switch from the >> relay; the meter makes the connection and allows current to flow. If you >> have voltage at the switch, try checking JUST continuity across switch >> contacts. Unplug the wire from the relay; if it is functioning properly >> you'll just get intermittent voltage, which isn't useful for checks. >> >> Kurt >> On Aug 27, 2012 8:21 AM, "Graham Rogers" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Allen, I spent a couple of hours at it yesterday afternoon - couldn't >>> find it. I'll try again today and report back. It seems that I have 12 v >>> from the gray wire at the relay to the turn signal bulb but when I activate >>> the turn signal it cancels the voltage in the gray wire (which may be it >>> should if the gray wire carries voltage to the running lights and the >>> running lights go out when activating the turn signal). However the green >>> and white is not hot to the bulb when I activate the turn signal. I tried >>> jumping wires from the relay to various places along the wire harness. Just >>> give me carbs to clean instead! Graham >>> >>> On Aug 26, 2012, at 11:36 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: >>> >>> Graham, any luck on finding the bad wire? >>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Allen Thomas" <[email protected]> >>> *Date: *Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:54:49 +0000 >>> *To: *Nightwawk Lovers<[email protected]> >>> *ReplyTo: *[email protected] >>> *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signal problems - AGAIN ALLEN! >>> >>> That is what the givi cases are for. >>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *Kurt Nolte <[email protected]> >>> *Sender: *[email protected] >>> *Date: *Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:25:24 -0400 >>> *To: *<[email protected]> >>> *ReplyTo: *[email protected] >>> *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signal problems - AGAIN ALLEN! >>> >>> You crazy lucky people and your blinker parties. I'm nine hours away. :/ >>> >>> Javier, where do you fit the cooler on the bike? 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