Resistors for LEDs must go in series with the diode, not across the leads. If you bridge the leads you don't get much bump in resistance or current; diodes have a fixed voltage drop, and elements in parallel MUST match voltage drops.
Kurt On Aug 27, 2012 1:36 PM, "Hanghank" <[email protected]> wrote: > Double check that. I know only a little about LED’s but they are low > load, and I believe the resistor goes across the two leads to the LED to * > increase* the load, or current consumption. Putting them in series with > the power would reduce the voltage/current even more. Ironically, current > operated relays require additional load to be added to the circuit, > negating the benefit of the reduced current. No resistor needed except for > current operated relays. Why not add a “solid state” relay and enjoy the > energy savings? > > *From:* Ross M. Jamison <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, August 27, 2012 12:13 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Cc:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signal problems - AGAIN ALLEN! > > Graham, > Check to see that there are NO LED bulbs installed. Led & incandescent > will not work together. You can make them but you will need a resistor > between the led & power source. > > Thank you, > > Ross M. Jamison > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 27, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Graham Rogers <[email protected]> > wrote: > > thanks Kurt, I'll come back to it again later - I have to put my mind > on something else for a while, it's too boggled, Graham > > On Aug 27, 2012, at 9:21 AM, Kurt Nolte wrote: > > Graham, to recap: > > You have swapped the relay, and you know you have four working bulbs. > > The relay supplies power to the signal switch. Internal contacts in the > switch disconnect the parking light (not supplied by the relay) and connect > the pathway to the proper signals side. The load of the bulbs draws a > certain amount of current through the relay, which heats up a metal strip. > This causes the strip to change shape, breaking the circuit. Current stops > flowing, the strip cools and makes the circuit to start the cycle all over > again. > > If you have an issue with all four signals, the problem must lie somewhere > upstream of the switch, including the switch itself. > > When the switch is OFF, you will read voltage at the switch from the > relay; the meter makes the connection and allows current to flow. If you > have voltage at the switch, try checking JUST continuity across switch > contacts. Unplug the wire from the relay; if it is functioning properly > you'll just get intermittent voltage, which isn't useful for checks. > > Kurt > On Aug 27, 2012 8:21 AM, "Graham Rogers" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Allen, I spent a couple of hours at it yesterday afternoon - couldn't >> find it. I'll try again today and report back. It seems that I have 12 v >> from the gray wire at the relay to the turn signal bulb but when I activate >> the turn signal it cancels the voltage in the gray wire (which may be it >> should if the gray wire carries voltage to the running lights and the >> running lights go out when activating the turn signal). However the green >> and white is not hot to the bulb when I activate the turn signal. I tried >> jumping wires from the relay to various places along the wire harness. Just >> give me carbs to clean instead! Graham >> >> On Aug 26, 2012, at 11:36 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: >> >> Graham, any luck on finding the bad wire? >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Allen Thomas" <[email protected]> >> *Date: *Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:54:49 +0000 >> *To: *Nightwawk Lovers<[email protected]> >> *ReplyTo: *[email protected] >> *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signal problems - AGAIN ALLEN! >> >> That is what the givi cases are for. >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *Kurt Nolte <[email protected]> >> *Sender: *[email protected] >> *Date: *Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:25:24 -0400 >> *To: *<[email protected]> >> *ReplyTo: *[email protected] >> *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signal problems - AGAIN ALLEN! >> >> You crazy lucky people and your blinker parties. I'm nine hours away. :/ >> >> Javier, where do you fit the cooler on the bike? 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