> 
> Sorry Larry, I think you are in the minority.  It seems to me 
> that those
> that with MCSE get on first string, while those that think 
> that the trench
> experience is all they need, sit on the sidelines.
> 
There was a recent article in eWeek (AIR) about this very issue.  The
premise was that the certification is now vital for getting hired.  Had an
anecdotal story about someone with 15+ years of experience who was
"downsized" and couldn't get another SysAdmin job because he had no cert.  

Experience certainly is valuable and I think the W2K certs being geard
toward having practical experience benefits from that.  But, apparently,
more HR managers are using the cert as a way of weeding out candidates,
especially with an oversupply of computer geeks from the dot-com bust.
Getting the cert shows not only a level of expertise but a commitment to the
profession.

> Not to say trench experience is worthless.  I hope it counts 
> for something
> since I have 15+ years of it.  My last position was as a 
> Solutions Architect
> with Compaq...so how's that for trench experience.   But I 
> think an MCSE
> still has value.  It shows that you have a BASE knowledge.  
> It's a starting
> point in a conversation.
> 
> Cheers,
> Leonard

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Todd Pukanecz  MCSE, GCWN
Virginia Tech, AHNR IT
Blacksburg, Virginia
---
It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making
decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no
price for being wrong.
- Thomas Sowell


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