Just to beat this poor the a little more....... SOAPBOX=ON
1. having the certs and not advertising them in some form is all but senseless given the labor pool and HR pressures. However, i think there is something to be said for having tact. I use them on my resume, and simply refer to them professionally if asked. I kinda like the inquisitive surprise more than the glamour. 2. These boot-camps should be banned, or Microsoft should require an apprentice period under tutelage with said professional, such as with the CE, CPA, etc. (also relates to issues in #3). I've met numbers of MCSEs billing $100 bucks an hour who had brick-laying (1) careers just 3 months before. I go, "what", while internally feeling sorry for the clients. 3. Just for a dissenting opinion regarding bright-eye'd cert gremlins vs. old-timer/computer geeks. While I've met a good number of "old-timer" computer geeks who i to this day admire passionately and go to for advise often, I've discovered many more, unfortunately enough, where i just walk away shaking my head saying "get a fu$%ing clue". While many often carry a great wisdom regarding specific systems in the days of old, and can wow you with assembly language talk - > you simply can't tell them anything they don't already know - especially if you're young, display the most subtle confidence and carry certs. You know the type, hands in pockets or on the belly like Al Bundy, bobbing up and down on their feet as they sing through the most shaky discourse on whatever (bullshit_factor = HIGH), cutting you off repeatedly with "yeah, well I've always....." (notice the "I've"). These cats seem to do so many things half-ass backwards, work in mental cubes - not communicating with the team all for the sake of face, pride or perhaps more appropriately, fear. Many old-timers in this industry just can't take smart youngsters, they resent them. I've seen this alot and it's sad. So, my point is that there are issues on both sides newbies and oldies. This industry, it's professionals young and old, needs a crash course in business smarts, team-building and professionalism. my thoughts-byron SOAPBOX=OFF (1) Nothing derogatory implied against my brick-laying pals - used only for specific example. -----Original Message----- From: Ash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:09 PM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: MCSE Certification So how about if you were an MCSE + Internet and you get your MCSE in 2000. Does that mean you show MCSE, which means it was a bit of a waste of time doing the extra certs for the + Internet (especially IEAK 4.0) Or do you keep MCSE + I, which seems to assume you have only passed the NT4.0 track. As a personal point, If you actually took the time to do the certs for either track, you should show it. MCSE + I, MCSE 2000. ------ You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% ------ You are subscribed as [email protected] Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
