Wait aren't you a MCP in multiple Fields? You left some stuff out if you are. hehe
Joshua Morgan PH: (864) 250-1350 Ext 133 Fax: (413) 581-4936 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Larry A. Duncan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:38 PM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: MCSE Certification Let's keep this in perspective, shall we? The original question was in regards to "what do I put on my business cards", not "what will land me the job". I'm mean, come on, how trivial is that? Yes, I understand the value of certifications, but if you're trying to tell me that you have to show BOTH certifications on your business cards to somehow qualify yourself, you're crazy! I've done my qualifications in the field. And, yes, I have the certifications to prove it. I just don't have to make my name look like an alphabet soup to feel good about myself. Should my tagline now read MCSE/2K, MCSE/NT4, MCSA, MCT & MCP+I or can I simply sum them all up by saying MCSE? I've chosen the latter. What you choose is up to you. Larry A. Duncan MCSE/2K, MCSE/NT4, MCSA, MCT & MCP+I, ASE, ACE, DCSE, CNA, CNE (get the point) Field Systems Engineer, Southeast Region Altiris Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] T: 615.599.5031 T: 800.869.9747 F: 615.599.5259 Have you maximized your investment in SMS, MOM and other Windows Mgmt tools? Get expert answers, hands-on training, and great utilities at the Microsoft Management Summit. Register today at http://www.altiris.com/aem/mmsconf2002/ -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 11:54 AM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: MCSE Certification > > Sorry Larry, I think you are in the minority. It seems to me that > those that with MCSE get on first string, while those that think > that the trench > experience is all they need, sit on the sidelines. > There was a recent article in eWeek (AIR) about this very issue. The premise was that the certification is now vital for getting hired. Had an anecdotal story about someone with 15+ years of experience who was "downsized" and couldn't get another SysAdmin job because he had no cert. Experience certainly is valuable and I think the W2K certs being geard toward having practical experience benefits from that. But, apparently, more HR managers are using the cert as a way of weeding out candidates, especially with an oversupply of computer geeks from the dot-com bust. Getting the cert shows not only a level of expertise but a commitment to the profession. > Not to say trench experience is worthless. I hope it counts for > something since I have 15+ years of it. My last position was as a > Solutions Architect > with Compaq...so how's that for trench experience. But I > think an MCSE > still has value. It shows that you have a BASE knowledge. > It's a starting > point in a conversation. > > Cheers, > Leonard _VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_VT Todd Pukanecz MCSE, GCWN Virginia Tech, AHNR IT Blacksburg, Virginia --- It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong. - Thomas Sowell ------ You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.343 / Virus Database: 190 - Release Date: 3/22/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.343 / Virus Database: 190 - Release Date: 3/22/2002 ------ You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% ------ You are subscribed as [email protected] Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
