Well, what I meant is that IT people will handle all of it. There won't be
a "phone guy" in the traditional sense anymore. Well maybe there will but
he'll be an IT guy. I imagine a lot of IT depts handle telecom but when
they need work done they hire a phone contractor. I have never worked in an
large enterprise setting so I don't really know what goes on there, the IT
dept probably has traditional phone guys on staff.

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]> wrote:

> In most places that I know of today, telecom is handled by IT or merged
> into the IT department.
>
> Unless you meant something else entirely...
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> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 4:56 PM, James Kerr <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I envision that IT will be in charge of phones systems in the future. I
>> admin our intertel systems for the last 7 years and unless it involves
>> trunks or doing cross connects on the 66 blocks I do it all. When we moved
>> one of our offices I had the guy punch all the ports in the phone system
>> into a patch panel so when I run a new extension I don't have to have
>> someone come out and cross connect it, I just punch it to a different panel
>> and patch cable it. No more 66 blocks at that facility. I don't know if
>> anyone else does it that way but I came up with the idea myself. ;-) I'm
>> sure there must be others that do the same thing because it makes sense.
>>
>> James
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Paul Hutchings <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Matt that helps and awful lot as it's the nitty gritty that tends
>>> to get overlooked.
>>>
>>> I would be interested in hearing of any licensing gotchas or things to
>>> be aware of.
>>>
>>> Which vendors switches are you using?
>>>
>>> I'm not as involved in the financial side of this, I'm coming at this
>>> more from the technical side (I currently have zero knowledge of phone
>>> systems but obvious once you move from a monolithic analogue system to an
>>> IP system it starts to merge with network/server stuff).
>>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Paul
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: Matthew W. Ross [[email protected]]
>>> Sent: 09 November 2011 4:48 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Re: ShoreTel
>>>
>>> Shoretel is the the phone system we're using.
>>>
>>> Pros:
>>>
>>>  * Very easy to use.
>>>  * Works great for windows environments.
>>>  * Has good support for mass deployment of analog phones (which some do
>>> not, and we use a lot of).
>>>  * Can be used as your intercom (Using IP phones).
>>>  * Support has been good for us.
>>>  * Outlook integration (We don't use this, but it's there.)
>>>
>>> Cons:
>>>
>>>  * Windows Centric (There is now a web based client which is a big
>>> improvement in this front).
>>>  * Serious product lock-in:
>>>   ** Their switches will only work with Shoretel.
>>>   ** Their IP phones will only work with Shoretel.
>>>   ** They license you per extension, and those licenses cannot be
>>> refunded/transferred.
>>>   ** SIP phones do work, for an additional fee.
>>>  * "Optional" support is not so optional. It is also primarily through
>>> your vendor, not Shoretel.
>>>  * Not cheap.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps.
>>>
>>>
>>> --Matt Ross
>>> Ephrata School District
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Paul Hutchings
>>> [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Wed, 09 Nov 2011
>>> 07:14:01 -0800
>>> Subject: ShoreTel
>>>
>>>
>>> > Anyone here using Shoretel for their phone system?
>>> >
>>> > From what we've seen so far we're confident they're a good fit both in
>>> terms
>>> > of features and architecture, and (most importantly IMO) the client
>>> software
>>> > appears to be pretty good to use.
>>> >
>>> > Any tales (on or off list) of how they have performed would be
>>> appreciated.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Paul
>>>
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