We put in Procurve 2510s. They work, and match the rest of our switches.

Kurt

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 15:24, Jon Harris <[email protected]> wrote:
> Shortels do work on other switches at least $dayjob$ they are using Cisco
> exclusively.  Like Matt I am not the phone guy but I sit across from two of
> them.  The only complaint I hear them make is during upgrades of older phone
> systems.  They have to go out and manually "fix" things in the remote
> offices.  That said I know they like the ability to put new staff and
> offices into the central phone server and preprogram the new systems and
> then go out and drop them in.  I don't know where it went but whey were
> looking at setting up internal conferencing thru the system for a while.
>
> Jon
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Matthew W. Ross <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> > I would be interested in hearing of any licensing gotchas or things to
>> > be
>> > aware of.
>>
>> One license "gotcha" we just recently experienced: We have a user who uses
>> their "Personal" license. This gives the users an extension, mailbox, etc...
>> But this user wanted a feature which was only available to the "Workgroup
>> Agent" license. (What the user wanted to do was to sign in/out of the
>> workgroup remotely, which apparently a "personal" license can't do.) What we
>> found out is that we can't upgrade the license, nor can we get a refund. If
>> we choose to do this, we just have to purchase the additional license (at
>> over $200).
>>
>> > Which vendors switches are you using?
>>
>> Shoretel makes you choose and stick to a vendor. I am unable to purchase
>> additional licenses/phones/switches from a different vendor without
>> completely transferring my vendor. We are using NCA (http://www.ncanet.com/)
>> and we have had "good to excellent" support from them for over 10 years. We
>> briefly looked into other vendors in our area.
>>
>> If your question is more of a "which hardware switches do you use": A mix
>> of the Shoretel 120s (IP phone capable or 24 analog lines) and the Shoretel
>> 24As (Cheaper, 24 analog extension only switch). Oh, and a Shoretel T1 for
>> our PRI.
>>
>> > I'm not as involved in the financial side of this, I'm coming at this
>> > more
>> > from the technical side (I currently have zero knowledge of phone
>> > systems
>> > but obvious once you move from a monolithic analogue system to an IP
>> > system
>> > it starts to merge with network/server stuff).
>>
>> I'm not really a phone guy. My predecessor was a phone guy. He is the one
>> who got the school to move to Shoretel, and I thank him for it every time I
>> use it. While now there are good, useable alternatives, it's worth looking
>> into other solutions. But I have been extremely happy with this product.
>>
>>
>> --Matt Ross
>> Ephrata School District
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Paul Hutchings
>> [mailto:[email protected]]
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Wed, 09 Nov 2011
>> 09:51:16 -0800
>> Subject: RE: ShoreTel
>>
>>
>> > Thanks Matt that helps and awful lot as it's the nitty gritty that tends
>> > to
>> > get overlooked.
>> >
>> > I would be interested in hearing of any licensing gotchas or things to
>> > be
>> > aware of.
>> >
>> > Which vendors switches are you using?
>> >
>> > I'm not as involved in the financial side of this, I'm coming at this
>> > more
>> > from the technical side (I currently have zero knowledge of phone
>> > systems
>> > but obvious once you move from a monolithic analogue system to an IP
>> > system
>> > it starts to merge with network/server stuff).
>> >
>> > Thanks again,
>> > Paul
>> > ________________________________________
>> > From: Matthew W. Ross [[email protected]]
>> > Sent: 09 November 2011 4:48 PM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: Re: ShoreTel
>> >
>> > Shoretel is the the phone system we're using.
>> >
>> > Pros:
>> >
>> >  * Very easy to use.
>> >  * Works great for windows environments.
>> >  * Has good support for mass deployment of analog phones (which some do
>> > not,
>> > and we use a lot of).
>> >  * Can be used as your intercom (Using IP phones).
>> >  * Support has been good for us.
>> >  * Outlook integration (We don't use this, but it's there.)
>> >
>> > Cons:
>> >
>> >  * Windows Centric (There is now a web based client which is a big
>> > improvement in this front).
>> >  * Serious product lock-in:
>> >    ** Their switches will only work with Shoretel.
>> >    ** Their IP phones will only work with Shoretel.
>> >    ** They license you per extension, and those licenses cannot be
>> > refunded/transferred.
>> >    ** SIP phones do work, for an additional fee.
>> >  * "Optional" support is not so optional. It is also primarily through
>> > your
>> > vendor, not Shoretel.
>> >  * Not cheap.
>> >
>> > I hope this helps.
>> >
>> >
>> > --Matt Ross
>> > Ephrata School District
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Paul Hutchings
>> > [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > Sent: Wed, 09 Nov 2011
>> > 07:14:01 -0800
>> > Subject: ShoreTel
>> >
>> >
>> > > Anyone here using Shoretel for their phone system?
>> > >
>> > > From what we've seen so far we're confident they're a good fit both in
>> > terms
>> > > of features and architecture, and (most importantly IMO) the client
>> > software
>> > > appears to be pretty good to use.
>> > >
>> > > Any tales (on or off list) of how they have performed would be
>> > appreciated.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Paul
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