Totally agree Casper! The power of Jumpstart has enabled customers to deploy servers from scratch with little to no manual configuration after doing a "boot net -install". AI has to be as flexible and hopefully easier to configure by learning from what customers do with Jumpstart (take a look at JET as a starting place), otherwise OpenSolaris will be seen as a complete PITA to deploy and just another reason to look at some other OS. I really do think that AI can be extended to encompass 90% of what a competent provisioning system does, but without scripting. Possibly more if an intelligent framework is put in place.
Again.. more focus has to be put on Data Center deployments and management than desktop usage. I would love to see OpenSolaris compete with Windows or MacOS X on the desktop. But realistically, not even Linux is making a dent.. so where is the return on making an enterprise OS into a desktop OS? That's not to say putting effort into the desktop doesn't make sense. Just that it shouldn't be the deciding factor in important features like provisioning or management. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Octave J. Orgeron Solaris Virtualization Architect and Consultant Web: http://unixconsole.blogspot.com E-Mail: [email protected] *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* ----- Original Message ---- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: Shawn Walker <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:13:10 AM Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Re: Oracle 10g on OpenSolaris (Solaris 5.11) >The point is that they don't *need* or have to be in the installer. >They're just as beneficial and useful at firstboot, in a Visual Panel, >or somewhere else. There is no overwhelmingly great reason to force >them to be part of the install process. Installation should be about >installation and the minimum amount of configuration to get the system >going. Anything beyond that is a pollution of the process IMO. Our customers want an "hands-off" install; an install which can be customized to a point where the system reboots and nothing needs to be done. "Visual panels" do not work when you need to install 100s of systems. The fact that you are required to configure a system after it is installed is a bug. Any system which requires post-install configuration is broken to a point that is not usable. Casper _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected] _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected]
