Fredrich,

nobody forces you to use linux-friendly solutions.
What I was trying to say is to give a _choice_ (yes, a choice !)
for linux users whether they want to have more familiar environment
or not. If you (or me or any other Solaris user) don't want to
use linux-friendly environment we can just answer "No"
while being asked.

So I don't want to force anybody to use linux- or non-linux-
environments - I just would like to have a choice. In fact I don't
need a choice. But if we want to attract linux users it would be
wise to give them choice.

Regards
Przemek

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 09:32:39AM -0400, Fredrich Maney wrote:
> I forgot to include the list in my original reply to Przemyslaw.
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> From: Fredrich Maney <[email protected]>
> Date: Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Re: Oracle 10g on OpenSolaris (Solaris 5.11)
> To: [email protected]
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> Przemyslaw,
> 
> No one has made that statement.
> 
> The decision to give the GNU userland precedence by default over the
> traditional Solaris userland has repeatedly been justified as making
> OpenSolaris more Linux-friendly in an attempt to attract Linux users.
> This goal - attracting more Linux users - is also behind the emphasis
> on making everything GUI/Wizard based from what I can tell.
> 
> The point I was trying to make is that many of the decisions that have
> been made in order to chase this pipedream (getting a Linux user to
> convert to *anything* that doesn't use the GPL is like trying to
> convince someone at Jonestown to not drink the Kool-Aid), have broken
> Solaris in the server/datacenter/enterprise world. I strongly believe
> that chasing desktop/single instance users at the expense of the
> server/enterprise users is an even more stupid decision than the way
> that Sun treated Solaris x86 for years.
> 
> To put it *very* bluntly, if I can not install OpenSolaris with a
> customized/minimized build over the network via a serial or LOM
> connection on hundreds of systems at time in an automated, hands-off
> way that leaves me a system configured the way I want/need it after
> the very first reboot without having to do further configuration when
> the system comes up, then I'm not interested in running OpenSolaris. I
> do not think I am alone in that regard.
> 
> fpsm
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> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:10 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:34:28AM -0400, Fredrich Maney wrote:
> >> I will concur. The single most important issue to me with regards to
> >> installing a system is that I be able to do it automatically and
> >> remotely.
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> >> I have quite literally installed thousands of Solaris instances on
> >> dozens of hardware platforms - less than a hundred have been
> >> interactively and probably fewer than 2 dozen have been on systems
> >> with a graphics card installed. Making me jump through additional
> >> (unnecessary) hoops after installation to fix a broken environment
> >> just to make it more "linux-friendly" is not going to make me very
> >> interested in using OpenSolaris - if I wanted to use Linux, I'd use
> >> Linux.
> >
> > It is beyond me or maybe I don't understand English but ...
> > who said that asking about your habits is equal to installing Linux ?
> > Can anybody explain me that ?
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> > Regards
> > Przemyslaw Bak (przemol)
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