I will concur. The single most important issue to me with regards to installing a system is that I be able to do it automatically and remotely.
I have quite literally installed thousands of Solaris instances on dozens of hardware platforms - less than a hundred have been interactively and probably fewer than 2 dozen have been on systems with a graphics card installed. Making me jump through additional (unnecessary) hoops after installation to fix a broken environment just to make it more "linux-friendly" is not going to make me very interested in using OpenSolaris - if I wanted to use Linux, I'd use Linux. fpsm On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Octave Orgeron<[email protected]> wrote: > Totally agree Casper! The power of Jumpstart has enabled customers to deploy > servers from scratch with little to no manual configuration after doing a > "boot net -install". AI has to be as flexible and hopefully easier to > configure by learning from what customers do with Jumpstart (take a look at > JET as a starting place), otherwise OpenSolaris will be seen as a complete > PITA to deploy and just another reason to look at some other OS. I really do > think that AI can be extended to encompass 90% of what a competent > provisioning system does, but without scripting. Possibly more if an > intelligent framework is put in place. > > Again.. more focus has to be put on Data Center deployments and management > than desktop usage. I would love to see OpenSolaris compete with Windows or > MacOS X on the desktop. But realistically, not even Linux is making a dent.. > so where is the return on making an enterprise OS into a desktop OS? That's > not to say putting effort into the desktop doesn't make sense. Just that it > shouldn't be the deciding factor in important features like provisioning or > management. > > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > Octave J. Orgeron > Solaris Virtualization Architect and Consultant > Web: http://unixconsole.blogspot.com > E-Mail: [email protected] > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: Shawn Walker <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:13:10 AM > Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Re: Oracle 10g on OpenSolaris (Solaris 5.11) > > > >>The point is that they don't *need* or have to be in the installer. >>They're just as beneficial and useful at firstboot, in a Visual Panel, >>or somewhere else. There is no overwhelmingly great reason to force >>them to be part of the install process. Installation should be about >>installation and the minimum amount of configuration to get the system >>going. Anything beyond that is a pollution of the process IMO. > > > Our customers want an "hands-off" install; an install which can be > customized to a point where the system reboots and nothing needs to > be done. > > "Visual panels" do not work when you need to install 100s of systems. > > The fact that you are required to configure a system after it is installed > is a bug. Any system which requires post-install configuration is broken > to a point that is not usable. > > Casper > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected]
