I forgot to include the list in my original reply to Przemyslaw.

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From: Fredrich Maney <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Re: Oracle 10g on OpenSolaris (Solaris 5.11)
To: [email protected]


Przemyslaw,

No one has made that statement.

The decision to give the GNU userland precedence by default over the
traditional Solaris userland has repeatedly been justified as making
OpenSolaris more Linux-friendly in an attempt to attract Linux users.
This goal - attracting more Linux users - is also behind the emphasis
on making everything GUI/Wizard based from what I can tell.

The point I was trying to make is that many of the decisions that have
been made in order to chase this pipedream (getting a Linux user to
convert to *anything* that doesn't use the GPL is like trying to
convince someone at Jonestown to not drink the Kool-Aid), have broken
Solaris in the server/datacenter/enterprise world. I strongly believe
that chasing desktop/single instance users at the expense of the
server/enterprise users is an even more stupid decision than the way
that Sun treated Solaris x86 for years.

To put it *very* bluntly, if I can not install OpenSolaris with a
customized/minimized build over the network via a serial or LOM
connection on hundreds of systems at time in an automated, hands-off
way that leaves me a system configured the way I want/need it after
the very first reboot without having to do further configuration when
the system comes up, then I'm not interested in running OpenSolaris. I
do not think I am alone in that regard.

fpsm

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:10 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:34:28AM -0400, Fredrich Maney wrote:
>> I will concur. The single most important issue to me with regards to
>> installing a system is that I be able to do it automatically and
>> remotely.
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>> I have quite literally installed thousands of Solaris instances on
>> dozens of hardware platforms - less than a hundred have been
>> interactively and probably fewer than 2 dozen have been on systems
>> with a graphics card installed. Making me jump through additional
>> (unnecessary) hoops after installation to fix a broken environment
>> just to make it more "linux-friendly" is not going to make me very
>> interested in using OpenSolaris - if I wanted to use Linux, I'd use
>> Linux.
>
> It is beyond me or maybe I don't understand English but ...
> who said that asking about your habits is equal to installing Linux ?
> Can anybody explain me that ?
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> Regards
> Przemyslaw Bak (przemol)
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> http://przemol.blogspot.com/
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