I guess you can believe the below, clench your fists and sing in a righteous voice "viva la silverlight" walk away thinking all this PR and community aggravation is misguided and that the highest ranked executive aside from ballmer himself got it wrong despite being briefed on silverlight every 3 months ranging on topics from ubiquity to roadmap selection criteria. Sure I can buy that but to sit and swallow that this is all just a misguided youth getting all sugary high from some bad journalists and how blind loyalty to the Microsoft ux strategy that has yet to really be shown despite constant signs of abandonment throughout the last 2 years is now a taboo topic of choice... Yeah that I can't buy just yet.
Win8 team don't want silverlight. I want it, we all on this list want it. Wpf is dead, I love working with wpf and I do so very day and think myself lucky .. But it's dead in terms of marketing and future investment.. The reality is this, right now the eyeball economy is bring used by factions internally as a beating stick on "why se should or shouldn't continue to invest" - I've personally seen 3 separate threads leaked with that pulse in place. Inside the teams we don't get to see data about how you all adopted it etc and so public opinion would often sway decisions ... As pathetic as that sounds. I sang loud and clear wpf is dead, journos picked up on it and ran with it. A month later the wpf team are working hard to proove my theories wrong. It's not like it's the first hey heard about it... It just finally got public momentum. As for Microsoft learning that the public can't be trusted with honesty? Hate to be the one that breaks this to all but that's the default posture held by majority of Microsoft teams.. Hence why MVP summits are often just a mix/pdc circle jerk with a different name.. Hate this all u like but this is doing a lot of good internally on silverlight vs HTML5 budget forecasts and resource allocations for the future.. Which means more toys for you all to play with if it sways to silverlights favor. There isn't an unlimited supply of engineers / marketing inside Microsoft .. Internally it cab become a zero sum game ;) -- Sent from my mini iPad nano (excuse my spilling and grammar as I have giant man like fingers and this device as small keys) On 01/11/2010, at 12:27 PM, Darren Neimke <[email protected]> wrote: > It's worse than that. If anything, think about what *we've* effectively just > told Microsoft: > > If you ever dare to try to tell us the truth, or give us information which is > in the least bit honest, we will beat you up with a fu#$ing great big stick! > > > Darren Neimke > [email protected] > > > > > From: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 13:24:34 +1100 > Subject: Re: So, is Silverlight dead yet? > To: [email protected] > > I agree. This whole Silverlight debate is a beat up over nothing. > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Darren Neimke <[email protected]> wrote: > There's a couple of things here that I think are really, really sad. > > Firstly, a department within Microsoft comes out at an event, and they use > plain English to show that they are supporting an exciting new technology. > Next, a couple of groups - who make money from eyeballs - come out with > inflammatory comments about what has been said. Finally, people like *you* > (whomever is reading this right now) give justification to the comments made > by those groups by going on about it. > > So in short, > > I don't really care who Mary Foley or TechCrunch are, or what qualifies them > to publish stories with such an audacious and misleading title as: > "Microsoft: Our strategy with Silverlight has shifted" > Every minute and therefore money (via our eyeballs) we give to Mary and > TechCrunch, is a minute that is not spent working out how to get the best out > of these 2 technologies > Think about the people who are writing about this "debate" (debate? really?) > and ask yourself what their motive is for writing in the first place > > > > Darren Neimke > [email protected] > > > > > Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 10:51:38 +1000 > Subject: So, is Silverlight dead yet? > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > > ...at least for non-phones: > > http://techcrunch.com/2010/10/30/rip-silverlight-on-the-web/ > http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-our-strategy-with-silverlight-has-shifted/7834 > http://wildermuth.com/2010/10/30/Post-PDC_HTML5_v_Silverlight_Debate > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ ozsilverlight mailing list > [email protected] > http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight > > _______________________________________________ > ozsilverlight mailing list > [email protected] > http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight > > > > _______________________________________________ ozsilverlight mailing list > [email protected] > http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight > _______________________________________________ > ozsilverlight mailing list > [email protected] > http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
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