That was in the transition days when they were moving from the screw
mount to the k-mount.  They actually sold both models in both mounts
for about 2 years. It seems like that was around 1973 or 1974.  gs

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On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 7:11 PM, [email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote:
> The SP500 (which I have one of) actually does have a shutter speed of 1/1000. 
> There is an unmarked space on the shutter speed dial where the 1/1000 speed 
> would have been on the SP. Not only a space on the dial, but a detente if you 
> move the dial to that blank space. And if you press the shutter release it 
> will fire!
>
> The story I heard is that the marketing department wanted a "discount" 
> Spotmatic, so came up with the idea for the SP500. Problem is that it would 
> have cost way to much to design and build a new shutter mechanism with no 
> 1/1000th speed.
>
> The solution was to use the same shutter mechanism as the Spotmatic but not 
> paint 1/1000 on the dial. And not calibrate the 1/1000 speed.
>
> The result is that for most SP500s the "phantom 1/1000" speed is off by about 
> 1/4 stop - hardly noticeable with most films, which tend to have a much wider 
> exposure latitude than digital.
>
> Back when I used my SP500 I used that phantom 1/1000 all the time and it 
> worked just fine!
>
> Since the SP500 lacked a few other features (self timer and hot shoe, which 
> by that time was - I believe - on the Spotmatic) it was still cheaper to make.
>
> I have no idea what this has to do with the current discussion; just a bit of 
> Pentax trivia is all...
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
> Christopher Hitchens
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Stan Halpin <[email protected]>
> Sent: September 16, 2012 9/16/12
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2012, at 5:07 PM, Toralf Lund wrote:
>
>>> What you're suggesting for Pentax would be a recipe for oblivion. It's
>>> a rare product that can sell and compete by boasting about what it
>>> DOESN'T have/do.
>> It would be dumb to market it that way, of course, but there is after all a 
>> certain appeal in being able to classify a product as simple and/or easy to 
>> use (as a result of not having many functions), and there are examples in 
>> the camera business on how a focus on different qualities than a long list 
>> of features or "cutting-edge" technology can be successful at least in a 
>> relative sense. Just look at the interest generated by the recent Fujifilm 
>> cameras. Or the Leica Ms for that manner. We're of course talking about a 
>> quite different market, there, but it seems to me that to a certain extent, 
>> they sell because of the features they don't have. Like auto-focus, for 
>> instance. The marketing doesn't actually boast about not offering it, though.
>>
>>>  OK, I can do w/o just about all picture modes, in
>>> camera RAW processing and in-camera HDR. But some people just love
>>> that.
>> I'd love to see someone should trying to make a camera without that 
>> functionality, though. Maybe it wouldn't be sensible as the only option, but 
>> if you based such a model on a different one with all those features, the 
>> development cost should also be close to 0. As such, it might not be such a 
>> bad idea from a business perspective, even if the marked might be limited.
>
> IIRC, back in the Spotmatic days, Pentax had two camera models identical in 
> virtually all specs. Except one had a max shutter speed of 1/1000, the other 
> had a limit screw which restricted the shutter speed max to 1/500. Don't want 
> fast shutter? Pay less. I think this would also work today. Don't want video 
> on your DSLR? Pentax should give you a discount of $200 compared to a 
> "full-featured" model, then charge you a $225 firmware upgrade fee if you 
> change your mind later.
>
> stan
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