Frederik, List:

Thanks for the clarification.

In my writings, I used the term "proto-proposition" to refer to either the 
first proposition in a sequence of propositions or to a prior proposition which 
precedes (perhaps by several steps) the final proposition from which the 
conclusion(s) of the arguments are to be drawn.

For example, a chemical molecule may contain "n" atoms.  Thus, a set of 
proto-propositions (the existence of a set of proper names of atoms contained 
in the molecule) is necessary to start the argument about its icon (atomic 
structure.)

Along this same vain of meaning of terms, do you understand CSP's usage of the 
word "argument" to include a conclusion or the set of conclusions?  Or, is it 
merely a set of dicisigns arranged for a purpose?

Cheers

Jerry







On Nov 2, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Frederik Stjernfelt wrote:

> Dear Jerry, lists - 
> 
> There is a bit terminological confusion here. Peirce's distinction within 
> Dicisigns was between propositions and quasi-propositions, the latter being 
> those Dicisigns which are not symbols. (One confusion comes from the fact 
> that Peirce often uses "Dicisign" and "proposition" interchangeably, such 
> that propositions have two subtypes: propositions and quasi-propositions - 
> this seems sloppy but is widespread in everyday language, think of "Cows" 
> having the two subtypes "Cows" and "Bulls" (Jakobson's "markedness"))
> James Hurford whose ideas I discuss in a later chapter uses 
> "proto-proposition" to refer to parts of "proto-thought" in higher animals 
> (specifically monkeys). 
> I do not think these two concepts, quasi and proto, are identical. 
> 
> Best
> F
> 
> Den 23/10/2014 kl. 19.09 skrev Jerry LR Chandler <[email protected]>:
> 
>> Tyler, List:
>> 
>> I am a quite uncertain about the meaning of the term "proto-proposition"
>> 
>> Could you hew-out a rough definition of your meaning?
>> 
>> It would be helpful, but not necessary, to place the notion of 
>> "proto-proposition" in relation to the terms of the triadic triad.
>> 
>> It would also be helpful but not necessary to know whether or not a 
>> proto-proposition should be thought of a form of an antecedent.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Jerry 
>> 
>>  
>> On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Tyler Bennett wrote:
>> 
>>> 
> 

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