Howard,

This is where "collateral acquaintance with the object domain" comes in.

We use this or that species of diagrams to represent some of the properties, hardly ever all of the properties, of the objects in some object domain. The diagrams that Peirce devised to represent propositions about relations are quite handy so long as one grasps the conventions of representation, manipulation, and interpretation. They are not all that different in kind from Feynman's diagrams or Penrose's twistor diagrams. Iconicity is nice when you can get it but one has to keep in mind that the map is not the territory, as the saying goes.

What do I see in a picture like this?

```````s``
``````/```
o---<R````
``````\```
```````i``

The "R" brings to mind a triadic relation R, which collateral knowledge tells me is a set of 3-tuples. What sort of 3-tuples? The picture sets a place for them by means the place-names "o", "s", "i", in no particular order. Without loss of generality I can take them up in the ordered triple (o, s, i). All of this is just mnemonic machination meant to say that a typical element is (o, s, i) in R. It's up to me to remember that R is a subset of O x S x I, with o in O, s in S, and i in I. The diagram is just a mnemonic catalyst. You have to know the codebook to decode it.

Pictures can victimize people, as Wittgenstein stated and as often exemplified. One way that people fall victim to pictures like the one depicted above is when they confuse a relation with a single one of its tuples. That would represents a misunderstanding of what the picture is intended to represent.

Regards,

Jon

Howard Pattee wrote:
At 10:58 PM 12/16/2014, Jon Awbrey wrote:
Howard,

It's hard for someone trained as a graph theorist to make sense of that question, since graphs, strictly speaking, are just dyadic (or binary) relations.

HP: So if it makes any sense, you would say the answer to my question is, No, by definition.

JA: If we are more loosely speaking about the sorts of diagrams that Peirce called "graphs" and used to represent propositions about arbitrary k-place relations, then we'll have to take some time to say what those are exactly and what they represent and how exactly to interpret them.

I might very hazily hazard a guess that are talking about a picture like this:

```````s``
``````/```
o---<R````
``````\```
```````i``
And maybe what you call a "dyadic subgraph" is some 2-part piece of that?

HP: That's too hazy. So I wonder: Is it possible to faithfully represent Peirce's triadic concept of a sign by a diagram or picture of any type? Frederik discusses <http://www.digitalpeirce.fee.unicamp.br/hoffmann/p-sighof.htm>Hoffmann (p. 279) but his diagrams are not graphs and the meaning of the lines joined at the center is totally occult.

Howard


Howard



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