If you're talking about common, you shouldn't ignore Socrates and Plato.

To ask the "what is..." question is to do common sense.

Consider the following, however:

"Only everybody can know the truth".  ~Goethe (kinda)
"The opinion which is fated <http://www.peirce.org/writings/p119.html#note2> to
be ultimately agreed to by all who investigate, is what we mean by the
truth, and the object represented in this opinion is the real. That is the
way I would explain reality." ~Peirce (for real).

So, what's common sense is different for "everybody" and "all who
investigate" and even "ultimately all who investigate".  So, when you
approach a group we accuse of exercising "common sense", then are they
*everybody*, all who investigate or *ultimately all who investigate*?

There is also the additional complication of those who are vulgar, vulgar
only for now and the learned/philosophers.  But this is how things are.

Best,
Jerry Rhee

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:54 PM, CLARK GOBLE <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Jun 28, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Helmut Raulien <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I think, your posts have made the problem of the term "average" clear. Am
> I right with understanding it like: "Average" usually suggests a completed
> statistical calculation, and statistics is mathematics, therefore exact
> logic. But in our context, "average" is not meant for an exact, but an
> "imperfect" general, so in our case it is about fuzzy logic with the
> remainder (and so the general) being not something clearly defined or
> known, but being some sort of suggestion of collusion/agreement, due to
> change, and itself subject of the communication- not articulated with
> terms, but conveyed by their connotations ? Connotations though donot stick
> to terms, but rather are a function of how much the communication partners,
> esp. the recipient, know about the history of terms, or whatever they have
> had internalized along with them each time they have heard, read, or
> thought them before.
>
>
> That’s how I understand it.
>
> I confess I have some trouble relating the coenoscopic and idioscopic
> senses (as Peirce terms them) If I have Peirce right then the term
> cenoscopic (which he picks up from Bentham) is common experience and
> presumably by association common but vague terminology. Idioscopy is more
> technical in language and focuses in on new phenomena.
>
> The problem is the it would seem common experience need not use loose or
> vague terms. Likewise common experience often leads to things like folk
> physics and folk psychology which aren’t just vague but often error ridden.
> (Which leads us to discount them and turn to science for the topics)
>
> Given that I’m still not quite sure what to make of “average.” It’s fine
> to talk about it as “common experience” (Peirce) or everydayness
> (Heidegger). But what does that get us ultimately?
>
>
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