At 07:36 PM 7/21/2001 -0700, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> > I wan to thank you for making your quick decision.
>
>Well, there is no point wasting your time.  If we were going to push a
>single content management framework as the standard PHP framework which in
>itself it quite unlikely, then we would pick one of the established ones
>written by people with a history in the PHP community and an understanding
>of that community.
>
>Content-management is outside the scope of the PHP project.  It may fit
>within the scope of the PEAR project at some point.
>
>And you cannot alienate most non-Windows users by flatly stating that you
>won't support Netcape.  How can you position something as a generic
>framework if 10-15% of all web users are not eligible to use it?

Rasmus,

Why would the fact that Michael isn't interested in supporting Netscape by 
himself stop this from becoming a PHP community project? I think the whole 
idea of making this a php.net/PEAR project would be that others from the 
community would help improve it and it would become what people want it to 
become.
I actually think he has a point that we should strive to create one good 
framework for PHP. This is very much like PEAR trying to give people good 
framework/class solutions.
Why are you being so completely against without letting the rest of php-dev 
& pear-dev discuss it? "Ok, then you have made our decision quite easy.". 
Who is "our"?
Anyway, I'm not saying that this PHP XMF needs to necessarily become the 
basis but I think it'd be a good idea to pitch this to the PEAR guys and 
see what they think about it (cc'ed them). I'm sure that if the pear guys 
would take such a project under their hood it would work with Netscape 
within a few weeks. Working or not working with Netscape is not a reason 
for not taking something as a starting baseline IMO.

Andi


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