So is this how PHP development works?
All the innuendo in your emails make me nauseous.
I feel I want to yell and scream out, "who does he think he is?"
Rasmus I must say this is a first. I have never met anyone of your
I will not attempt to answer your conjectures, its to farfetched to respond
If you have a specific and honest question for me feel free to ask me
instead of assuming and denigrating me.
Blows my mind...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rasmus Lerdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Andi Gutmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Michael Glazer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 2:07 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Fw: PHP XMF
> > I don't want to convince anyone :) I have no personal interest in this.
> > just thought it was odd that I wake up and whilst reading my EMails the
> > issue was settled already w/o anyone responding.
> It seemed like an obvious one. The demo URL he gave didn't work. When I
> dug up a browser it worked with (Opera) and poked around I learned this
> thing isn't an open source project so cmf.php.net would be a big fat
> advertisement for 4arrow.com where you can go to buy an XPC license or get
> a "private consultation and needs assesment". And one of its big claim to
> fames is that it eliminates ugly query strings. ie. they discoverd
> $PATH_INFO and perhaps even ForceType,
> And the published API for the thing is:
> The arguments that XPC employ are arguments that are sent via standard
> HTTP URI REQUESTs of enviromental variable values.
> $domain =
> $xpc_url =
> $sitepath =
> $siteroot =
> $file =
> $ext =
> $access =
> $fmt =
> $pagetpl =
> $pagekeys =
> $pagedesc =
> The methods that XPC employ are passive aggresive methds of enviromental
> variable manipulation.
> Methods include:
> currentDomain() =
> currentPage() =
> pageTpl() =
> pageStatus() =
> pageAccess() =
> pageFormat() =
> pageMeta() =
> That's the sum total of the API documentation. Here comes the
> installation docs:
> XPC Manual setup and Installation
> XPC can be either manually installed or setup vis a vis the 4Arrow setup
> browser install. The 4Arrow setup browser installer can be done locally
> or remotely without any need to manually edit any files.
> There are a few more pages describing various stuff and no code to
> Compare that to the excellent documentation available for Midgard at
> or as a PDF: http://www.midgard-project.org/manual_dwnld/manual.pdf.gz
> The architecture of XPC may very well be sound. But we have no way of
> knowing this since the code is not available and the available
> documentation is useless. And the parts we can see seem shaky.
> Basically all the symptoms of a very young project. I probably dismissed
> Michael a tad abruptly, but I was annoyed at him posting a private reply
> to a public list (not that I said anything private in my message, just the
> etiquette of it) and his silly reasoning for not supporting Netscape (CEO
> of Netscape told him it didn't work) and then after poking around to see
> what the hell XPC was, learning that there was nothing there except an
> apparently proprietary product which was poorly documented. Considering
> this, having him ask for cmf.php.net seemed absurd to me.
> My advice to Michael and 4arrow would be to try to build a community
> around this project by first putting the code out there for the community
> to play with, and second, spending a lot of time documenting and
> presenting the architecture in a concise manner. Without these two steps
> you can't possibly expect to win the support of
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