Hello,

James Cox wrote:
> 
> No, this thread is not going anywhere because web services as defined by the
> non-standards compliant microsoft are still definining what they are doing
> with web services, (it's only in beta 2) and everyone is insensitive to each
> other.

I think you are confusing MS .NET com Web services. Web Services is
definitely not just a Microsoft thing. SOAP is not just a Microsoft
thing and definitely not in beta phase. You may find SOAP 1.2 draft
here:

http://www.w3.org/TR/soap12/

Here you may find a large directory of useful Web services up and
running.

http://www.xmethods.net/

This is just a sample of what will be launched this year. As you may see
there are a lot of Apache and Kylix based Web services besides those
provide by stuff from the Windows world.

Here you may find a PHP class for developing Web Services.

http://phpclasses.upperdesign.com/browse.html/package/251

Here you may find an application of that class providing Web services
for querying and controlling ezmlm based mailing lists. ezmlm is a
mailing list manager that needs qmail and qmail is a Unix only thing,
just to show you that Web services is not a Microsoft thing.

http://phpclasses.upperdesign.com/browse.html/package/177


All this is great and provides valuable services. The good news is that
there several languages with built-in support (it is part of the
supported syntax) to consume these Web services. The bad news is that
PHP is not one of those languages now. Denying the importance of being
able to consume Web services with built-in support in PHP, it means that
PHP will be lagging further more compared to those languages for a long
time until PHP developers stop being stubborn and stop inventing excuses
for not adding it to PHP.

Regards,
Manuel Lemos

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