It hurts no one. Believe me.

Do what. Download PHP package and put it on sale. We'll let you do that
by our license. Actually, yeah, here I go - YOU CAN DO IT RIGHT NOW.

600 people worked hard on PHP for over several years and thousands of
servers do us the real-life test.

Just sell it.
Will we get hurt? Ufff.... whata pain ....


Maxim Maletsky


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Acer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 7:06 AM
> To: CÚsar Aracena; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding
> 
> the truth hurts sometimes.
> 
> this was dropped a long time ago but you people keep bringing it up
and
> giving your 2 cents.  thanks cesar, you can read my mind.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CÚsar Aracena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: August 4, 2002 12:59 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding
> 
> 
> I am pretty new to PHP, but not to computing since I've been working
> with them for about 15 years and I would like to say something about
> this idiotic spamming subject.
> 
> It's your problem if you get short on cash for buying something you
> could have done by yourself which, by the way, is the beauty of open
> source.
> 
> Now, to cut the crap here, which OS do you use at work or even worse,
at
> home? Have you ever bought a computer that comes with any version of
MS
> Windows preinstalled? If you think that buying any kind commercial
> product while having the chance to get the same benefits from an open
> source piece is the right way to go, then do it. If not, just
> unsubscribe yourself from Zend's newsletter and don't ever visit their
> home site. By the way, how much did you pay for the last MS Windows
you
> bought? Or do you use copies? Uhmmm... that's not nice.
> 
> I have more than 10.000 e-mails stored in my PHP-General folder which
> are all (or most of them) dedicated to help solving PHP issues for us
> newcomers (by the way, thanks to all). Ok, so maybe some of them are
> about other things such MySQL or HTML, but hey... it's not easy for
> everybody to find the right place to ask for help.
> 
> So, to keep it short, please stop messing with other people's ideas
> about how the silicon world should work and start making your own
ones.
> You sound like a very smart person. It's really a shame that not a
> single person from this list will ever give you a job but hey... that
> was your own decision.
> 
> Good luck in your life you poor, poor soul.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Acer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 1:20 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Justin French'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; php-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding
> >
> > i did drop it and then a whole bunch of you late comers piled in
again
> so
> > why don't you give it up.
> >
> > BTW did i mention the core php group are a click?  i'm sure all of
> them
> > are
> > busily emailing each other saying "oh what a jerk, we are doing a
> great
> > job,
> > don't listen to that guy, you guys are the best!  keep up the good
> work!"
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Maxim Maletsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: August 4, 2002 12:22 AM
> > To: 'Acer'; 'Justin French'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding
> >
> >
> > Acer, I can, we all can, but this is OFF-TOPIC.
> >
> > You are insisting on your ideas on this mailing list. We DO disagree
> > with you, yet, we PREFER to drop this thread off THIS list.
> >
> > Please start looking for a right place and right people and tell
them
> > what you think about Zend, PHP, ASP and JSP.
> >
> > This mailing list discusses general php problems. Zend's pricing is
> not
> > our problem.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Maxim Maletsky
> >
> > PHP Beginner
> > www.phpbeginner.com
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Acer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 5:57 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Justin French'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; php-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding
> > >
> > > if you can't debate the issues then get out.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Maxim Maletsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: August 4, 2002 12:00 AM
> > > To: 'Acer'; 'Justin French'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding
> > >
> > >
> > > Acer,
> > >
> > > Give it up. We are tired of you.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Maxim Maletsky
> > >
> > > PHP Beginner
> > > www.phpbeginner.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Acer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 5:40 AM
> > > > To: Justin French; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding
> > > >
> > > > okay you say zend gave me php and rasmus says 600 people gave me
> > php.
> > > you
> > > > guys need to get your story right.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Justin French [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: August 3, 2002 9:44 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > on 03/08/02 11:57 PM, Manuel Lemos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> The people for Zend have to eat to live.
> > > > >
> > > > > And don't we all? That is the main problem. If we need to pay
> USD
> > > $3,000
> > > > > to be able to compile our PHP programs, doesn't that make not
> > viable
> > > for
> > > > > most of us to sell our PHP programs as closed source?
> > > >
> > > > How much money do you make a week writing PHP scripts?  Just
> > remember,
> > > > Zend
> > > > gave you PHP, for free, to use in almost any commercial way you
> > wish.
> > > >
> > > > My clients cant afford Zend, but when the right client comes
> along,
> > > it'll
> > > > be
> > > > my recommendation without hesitation.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Justin French
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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