The size and scope of the neuro net for the neuro router (if it really is an
authentic neuro router) is an infinitetecibly miniature size compared to what would
necessary for real intelligence.

    Not only that, but the router's net would need training & re-training on design,
scope, pattern, and so many other things outside of PCB design, I don't think that
Protel has the developers to develop such an intelligent router.  I also think that
with the current PC design architecture, it will not be possible to get a PC fast
enough to emulate such a complex neuro net which would rout more than 1 trace a day.

    Years ago, Intel was designing a neuro net IC which had an analog core.  It
learned digitally and operated in an analog environment.  It supposedly learned
hundreds of times faster than it was possible to emulate a neuro net with standard
software, and it operated thousands of times faster in general.  I wonder why such
technology was abandoned, this single IC which did everything was a new way of
thinking in IC design.

____________
Brian Guralnick


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bagotronix Tech Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouting Problems


| > >   The router is based on neural net technology from the
| > >Neurorouter company that Protel acquired several years ago.  Neural nets
| are
| > >AI, and AI is the future, right?  ;-)
| >
| > You believed that hype?
|
| Nope.  But year after year I hear the AI hype.  I have yet to see anything
| truly intelligent come from a computer.  Every now and then some industry
| pundit claims that within X years computers will exceed human intelligence.
| When does this race actually start?  From what I have seen, it hasn't
| started yet.
|
| Neural nets are hardware, but as we know, hardware can be simulated in
| software.  In fact, most of the research in neural nets uses simulation.
| You don't think those profs and grad students would stoop to soldering, do
| you? ;-)
|
| Look, Abdul, no trailing quotations!
|
| Best regards,
| Ivan Baggett
| Bagotronix Inc.
| website:  www.bagotronix.com
|
|

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