I've had very good results with www.pcbexpress.com for small quantities or
protos .
They don't charge tooling , also no electrical test for less than 20pcs
protos .
3 days 4 layers no soldermask , ALWAYS (and I mean always) on time with zero
problems.
4 days 4 layers LPI soldermask +silkscreen both sides, ALWAYS on time with
no problems.
No monkeys flipping layers, changing layer order , adding holes, etc. Board
quality looks good even under microscope , laminate schedule is consistent .
Only drawback is everything is automated. Submit files via ftp, pay over the
web, get boards 4 days later. No muss no fuss .
Did I mnetion they're the least expensive of the bunch ? Far less than
Advanced Circuits for same quality and quantity . You just don't get to
speak on the phone with your favorite salesdroid , that's really sad .

Matt Tudor , MSEE
http://www.gigahertzelectronics.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robison Michael R CNIN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Board Shops with Online Quotes ?


> Jon Elson said:
> We used to use Imagineering, aka www.pcbnet.com, as they
> were cheaper than Advanced Circuits a few years ago.  Beware,
> though, that they charge for electrical test but may not actually
> do the test.  We had a 6-layer board that they did for us, it had the
> ET stamp on it, but a batch of the boards were NOT tested.
> We don't have the equipment to test them ourselves, so we find
> the inner layer shorts, etc. AFTER all the parts are on.  Well, we
> have no other choice but to blacklist them on this particular
> type of problem.  We have gone through about 5 fabricators
> due to this same game.  Advanced Circuits has NEVER pulled this
> stunt on us. Before we went to Advanced Circuits the first time,
> we used Proto-Circuits in Alpharetta, GA, and left them for the same
> reason.
>
> ***********
> Thank you for making me aware of this problem.  This kind of
> shoddy and dishonest workmanship is unacceptable to us.  We
> do low-rate production, and our profit is based on a smooth
> development cycle.  If we populate a board and it fails test,
> we are in trouble.  A prolonged troubleshooting period threatens
> both our delivery date and our profit.
>
> miker
>
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