I've had very good results with www.pcbexpress.com for small quantities or protos . They don't charge tooling , also no electrical test for less than 20pcs protos . 3 days 4 layers no soldermask , ALWAYS (and I mean always) on time with zero problems. 4 days 4 layers LPI soldermask +silkscreen both sides, ALWAYS on time with no problems. No monkeys flipping layers, changing layer order , adding holes, etc. Board quality looks good even under microscope , laminate schedule is consistent . Only drawback is everything is automated. Submit files via ftp, pay over the web, get boards 4 days later. No muss no fuss . Did I mnetion they're the least expensive of the bunch ? Far less than Advanced Circuits for same quality and quantity . You just don't get to speak on the phone with your favorite salesdroid , that's really sad .
Matt Tudor , MSEE http://www.gigahertzelectronics.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robison Michael R CNIN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Board Shops with Online Quotes ? > Jon Elson said: > We used to use Imagineering, aka www.pcbnet.com, as they > were cheaper than Advanced Circuits a few years ago. Beware, > though, that they charge for electrical test but may not actually > do the test. We had a 6-layer board that they did for us, it had the > ET stamp on it, but a batch of the boards were NOT tested. > We don't have the equipment to test them ourselves, so we find > the inner layer shorts, etc. AFTER all the parts are on. Well, we > have no other choice but to blacklist them on this particular > type of problem. We have gone through about 5 fabricators > due to this same game. Advanced Circuits has NEVER pulled this > stunt on us. Before we went to Advanced Circuits the first time, > we used Proto-Circuits in Alpharetta, GA, and left them for the same > reason. > > *********** > Thank you for making me aware of this problem. This kind of > shoddy and dishonest workmanship is unacceptable to us. We > do low-rate production, and our profit is based on a smooth > development cycle. If we populate a board and it fails test, > we are in trouble. A prolonged troubleshooting period threatens > both our delivery date and our profit. > > miker > > ************************************************************************ > * Tracking #: B8709D0DB7F3604DAAB386D812A88672E6996313 > * > ************************************************************************ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
