Yes it's completely transferable (at least it says so in the 99SE
license), and it's the most generous policy I've seen with a s/w vendor.
People shouldn't go buying ones on ebay if they truly are not
transferable because this will be taken away if abused. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter W. Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 3:03 PM
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] The going price for P99SE on Ebay
> 
> 
> >Ok guys this has been beat to death here, lets talk 
> technical and leave 
> >the business ethics >for elsewhere.
> 
> Seriously!  It's Ebay--Caveat emptor.  End of story.  If you 
> think $2K is an unfair price, don't bid.
> 
> Stupid question--is one's license to use Protel actually 
> legally transferable?  Most software licenses (esp. for CAD 
> stuff) I've seen seem to prohibit selling the license to 
> another party.  (apologies if this starts another war!)
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 5:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] The going price for P99SE on Ebay
> 
> 
> Yes - he was willing to pay the price - if he had to.
> 
> But, the motivation was not that he wanted it, not that he 
> needed it, but to raise the price so others would no longer 
> be able to win at a lower price, and hope that someone would 
> outbid him so he wouldn't have to pay.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Sumner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:01 PM
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] The going price for P99SE on Ebay
> 
> 
> Mr. Lomax placed his bid and was ready to buy it at that 
> price. Someone else was willing to pay a bit more.  If I 
> needed another license, I would have made a bid myself, 
> possibly much higher (it went rather cheaply compared to what 
> I paid for 3.5 and upgrades to 99se), but I don't and I 
> didn't. That's called an "auction", and I have no argument with it.
> 
> Richard Sumner
> 
> 
> 
> At 03:52 PM 1/9/2003 -0800, you wrote:
> 
> >'Abd ul-Rahman Lomax' said:
> >"I placed a bid on that license even though I'm short of cash (I bid
> >$2025) simply because I couldn't stand to see it go for under $2,000.
> >I'm trying to sell an extra 99SE license for $4500! (OBO)."
> >
> >
> >
> >I (and others may) still think that the attitude;
> >
> >I see someone on Ebay selling the same product that I do.  
> It is now at
> >a very low price, maybe lower that what I pay.  I do not 
> want anyone to 
> >get this product for this low a price because of how it may 
> effect me 
> >and the market.  I have no desire to buy this product myself 
> right now, 
> >but I will bid a significantly higher price to prevent 
> anyone else from 
> >getting a lower price, and if I get that price, I am willing 
> to pay for 
> >it.
> >
> >...as being quite selfish, and against the basic principal 
> of auctions.
> >
> >I know that this probably happens all the time, and that there is
> >little that can be done about it.
> >
> >I would also point out that if the seller engages in this kind of
> >activity, that this is explicitly against the bidding 
> policies, and can 
> >be reacted to quite vigorously by the auctioneer.  I would also 
> >consider this behavior contrary to the free market, and 
> could even be 
> >considered market manipulation
> >- ala Enron, etc.
> >
> >Now, if you wanted to get into a typical bidding competition, this is
> >exactly the spirit of auctions, and may have resulted is a 
> similar or 
> >higher ending price - whether you won or not.
> >
> >I would recommend it may be safer not share your 
> participation in this
> >kind of activity in the future - regardless how benevolent or 'fair' 
> >you may consider your motivations to be.
> 
> 


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