On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 11:31:27 AM UTC-4, PR wrote: > Hello, > > > I think it makes sense to concentrate more on what we (different user > types/groups) would like to see, instead of having some kind of 'flame war' > GUI vs. Terminal. > > > The good thing was always that you can built very complicated workflows using > the terminal/bash scrips make life easier and that you can have a GUI for > 80% of the standard tasks for "normal users", which are more interested in > using their computer as a tool instead of tweaking around. > > > We can and should have both: > 1) API/terminal commands for 'advanced users' and > 2) a simple GUI for normal users who just want to use a PC that protects > their privacy somewhat better than their current Windows 10 Laptop. > > > > Am 05.08.2017 5:02 nachm. schrieb "cooloutac" <raah...@gmail.com>: > > > The forever problem of linux, is the self fulfilling prophecies from people > who want to feel superior over others. > > > > Disagree, I think that those people are just faster using the terminal. > And those users are technically skilled and have at least basic knowledge > about an operating system. > > > I agree with cooloutac that Qubes has a benefit if it can be used for regular > tasks without touching the terminal. > Even when using Windows lots of people use Laptops that have been setup by > experienced users and then handover to them. > They don't bother with tweaking the system, so simplifying the use of Qubes > would help to get those users on board. > > > BUT: > Important point is that additional security/privacy has most time a price > that it add a small layer of complexity/less usability for the user. > But Qubes is doing a great job to reduce this overhead. > > > As far as I have understand the Qubes team statement, it seems that the > concentrate more on the Qubes Core stuff and having the API/Terminal > commands, someone can still write a GUI for Qubes like Qubes Manager. > > > Honestly I don't understand why it is that hard to Port Qubes Manager over to > Qubes 4, so that the user can choose: > > > - terminal > - old Qubes manager with maybe a reduced feature set > - new Qubes widgets > - ... ? > > > This topic reminds me about the vi vs. emacs discussions. What the heck? I > use both ;-) > Or the new "Ribbon Bar" from Microsoft which was also not that accepted in > the beginning. > > > - PhR
there is no versus anything, noone is asking to get rid of the terminal? This is nothing like vi vs emac discussions. what? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/3f766f35-aa22-4909-af8f-6db2cbeb5f92%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.