On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 3:26:05 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote:
> I'll be disappointed but I'm not going to be mad at them for trying to get 
> paid, they deserve it. 
> But I also wouldn't mind if they turned me into a money asset like windows so 
> they can keep designing it for home users...lol
> I look at things differently.  You are referring to linux architecture and 
> developers,  while I'm referring to the majority of its users and community 
> members, as the Product.

Alright, I respect that, we see some things differently. But the discussion is 
good, it does not have to come down to agreeing in the end. 

I don't like customers being turned into assets though. The way I see it, it 
essentially make people "not people" anymore, customer service is out of the 
window, it's all about cheating and manipulating people into making the best 
use of them, rather than making a fair trade between a company and a customer. 
So I kind of black out when I see business models that turn people into assets, 
I really, really don't like that approach.

But I do really agree that I wouldn't mind Qubes taking a fee, ask for more 
donations, or focus partly or entirely on business users. They do a lot of hard 
work, and regardless of the target group, the change will be for the better of 
humanity. Perhaps it's asking too much for Qubes to focus on both companies and 
end-users at the same time, nontheless, I do hope they can manage to do that.

It's obvious they had their hands full on Qubes 4 too, so it might just be that 
and we're reading too much into the issue here at hand. But lets see, with time 
comes answers. I just hope it wiill be in good time rather the long wait.

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